We’re back for “episode 5b” after last week’s kerfluffle, and we kick off with your Value‑for‑Value boosts, shout‑outs, and a quick download on show stats and hosting. From there we dive into practical Bitcoin life: the Lightning wallets we actually use (and why), node setups, when to use swaps and CoinJoin, and simple ways to bridge Lightning and on‑chain without losing your mind. We also share day‑to‑day routines that keep us steady—yoga, cold showers, meditation, sunlight, grounding, blue‑light hygiene—and swap notes on Jack Kruse, John Ott, and eating with the seasons. Rounding it out: orange‑pilling local merchants, a fun “Market Square” idea to spotlight builders, cacao and coffee talk, and even a little Pokémon and vintage marbles before the guitar plays us out. Big takeaways: keep Bitcoin tooling simple until you need the advanced stuff; privacy is a spectrum (Wasabi and UTXO management help); small wins in the circular economy matter (buying coffee with sats, setting up friends with Lightning); and building resilient lives looks a lot like permaculture—diverse inputs, steady habits, and patience.
- 'Stacker News': https://stacker.news/
- 'Fountain (Podcast App)': https://fountain.fm/features
- 'Get Alby (Alby Hub + extension)': https://getalby.com/
- 'Start9 (self‑hosting your own services)': https://start9.com/
- 'Umbrel (home server + app store)': https://umbrel.com/
- 'Sparrow Wallet': https://www.sparrowwallet.com/
- 'COLDCARD (Bitcoin signing device)': https://coldcard.com/
- 'Wallet of Satoshi': https://www.walletofsatoshi.com/
- 'ZEUS (mobile LN + node manager)': https://docs.zeusln.app/
- 'Blixt Wallet': https://blixtwallet.github.io/
- 'AQUA (by JAN3)': https://jan3.com/blog/aqua-wallet-now-open-source-software
- 'Cashu (ecash protocol)': https://cashu.space/
- 'ThunderHub (LN node manager)': https://thunderhub.io/
- 'Ride The Lightning (RTL)': https://github.com/Ride-The-Lightning/RTL
- 'Wasabi Wallet (privacy/coinjoin)': https://wasabiwallet.io
- 'Shakepay (Canada)': https://shakepay.com/
- 'River (US)': https://river.com/
- 'Damus (Nostr client)': https://damus.io/
- 'Nostr Wallet Connect (NIP‑47)': https://nwc.dev/
- 'TakeMySats (Bitcoin marketplace)': https://www.takemysats.com/
- 'Podhome (podcast hosting + V4V)': https://www.podhome.fm/
- 'Wildroots Coffee (Charlotte, NC)': https://maps.apple.com/place?place-id=I672A3C9FC059EAF4
- 'Swayne Creek Ciderhouse (Vancouver Island, BC)': https://swaynecreek.ca/
- 'Bitcoin Beans (cacao; circular economy)': https://www.bitcoinbeans.co/about
- 'Satoshi Coffee Co.': https://sats.coffee/
- 'Jack Kruse (light, mitochondria, health)': https://jackkruse.com/homepage/
- 'John N. Ott – Health and Light (background)': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ott
- 'Scale by Geoffrey West (book)': https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/314049/scale-by-geoffrey-west/
- 'Metcalfe’s Law (network effects)': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law
- 'Nostr (protocol overview)': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostr
- 'Vanuatu (where it is and languages)': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanuatu
- 'APKPure (older Android app versions)': https://apkpure.com/
Join us on Nostr: Oshi (npub1uzt238htjzpq39dxmltlx60vxym9fetk9czz6kddq6fhvkf4z3usy9qtrh) & Permanerd (npub1zqdpzty2mshxncqqxy2078qax6mlehsxmpx5095wtxw4tpepkr0s2ce6fj)
Send an email: sayhi@youarethealgo.com
[00:00:00] Oshi:
I'll do a quick little, little riff stir here.
[00:00:38] Permanerd:
Hello, and welcome to the Yada Pod Podcast where you are the algorithm. I am Permanerd, and I am joined by my good friend and purveyor of amazing guitar riffs,
[00:00:51] Oshi:
Oishi. How you doing, man? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. We're back, finally. It's been a while. Has been a while. I'm back, two feet on the ground so to speak. So This
[00:01:04] Permanerd:
will be episode five b perhaps. We had technical difficulties last week. So we're gonna try it again this week and and see how it goes. Yep. We got lots to talk about though. We do have lots to talk about. This is a value for value podcast which means that we put it out and you put it in your ear holes if you want to. And then any value that you feel like you've you've gotten or that you'd like to give back, we're happy to receive, and that comes in the form of notes on Noster, sharing the show, even just listening to the show. So we appreciate that, and thank you. Mhmm.
We do have some boosts from the last show or from the last episode that we had here. And we'll start with 499 stats from user 59437352. And that is from the last episode, Abominable Farewell. Sorry, Chad f. You are not abominable. And it says, thanks, guys. Especially impressed that you're trading sats despite the odorous taxation theft. Odorous taxation theft. I like that. Odorous. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know what that means. Is that like abominable? Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm sure that I can use it incorrectly.
Odorous. So thank you semi you anonymous user. And our next one is 318 sats from RevHoddle. Nice. That's cool. And that says, glad to see the crossover of Nostr Merchant and Bitcoin meetups. Nostril is the digital place where Bitcoiners can con congregate, but to find the local Bitcoiners, a whole new market and potential emerges. I agree. Yeah. Absolutely. So thanks, Rev Hoddle. And then two two two small road ducks from bullish clips that says bullish. Is that bullish Bitcoin? I do believe it is. I think he's got some sort of podcast clipping apparati.
[00:03:10] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. That's cool. Thanks, dude. He doesn't sleep, man. Like, I don't he just goes. Yeah. He's a builder, man. It's it's sick to see.
[00:03:19] Permanerd:
Yeah. That's awesome. So, yeah, bullish, if you're listening, and and let us know what exactly bullish clips is. And then another two two two from bullish clips, and this one's from fearless circular economy. It says thanks for shouting out take my sats. Well, you're you're very welcome, and we love to do it. And check out takemysats.com?
[00:03:41] Oshi:
Mhmm. I think so. Dotcom?
[00:03:44] Permanerd:
Yeah. It's safe. For it's a another marketplace that accepts Bitcoin. Is that kinda how you Yeah. It's kinda just like
[00:03:54] Oshi:
a marketplace that's set up for you to set up shop and accept Bitcoin. I mean, you have to have your own Lightning address and things like that, but it's all plug and play kinda thing for if you have a product ready to sell for Bitcoin. It's pretty sick. Definitely recommend it. I've got a few things. I've got one thing there, but, yeah, check it out. Yeah. I've wanted to check it out for a while too, and I'm
[00:04:17] Permanerd:
just I'm strapped at this point for I hear you. For time to do it. Yep. And then we got a four twenty Sats from Undisciplined. I see what you did there. It says, another great episode. Happy to be on the life raft with you. Thank you, Undisciplined. It's have you. It'll be interesting to see you once we enter starvation mode. Who we eat first? And then three twenty two from Rev Hoddle again from Fearless Circular Economy. It says, still don't understand why Stacker News isn't more integrated with Noster. I wish it was. Yeah.
[00:04:57] Oshi:
True. True. I agree. I love Stacker. I'm there every day.
[00:05:01] Permanerd:
I agree. I think everything should be with Noster, integrated with Noster. I have been I have been doing a little bit of writing for this. I don't know if I talked about it. I don't think so. Week or if it was on the episode. But, yeah, I'm just working on writing a bit of a what do you call it if it's more than a paragraph?
[00:05:22] Oshi:
A short narrative, a short story.
[00:05:26] Permanerd:
Yeah. A novella. Something short and sweet. But yeah, just about the when we went mushroom hunting for morels in the burned out forest and then Cool. Did you take pictures? I've got a few pictures. Yeah. And so it's just it's about the the correlations I saw between that ecosystem in the state it was in and permaculture and just how secession works. That's cool. Yeah. You got it in your name. So Yeah. We'll see if it see how long it takes me to get that done. Good things take time. Hey. It's true. It's true. That's why it took us how many years to start this.
[00:06:09] Oshi:
Even to get to episode five. My bad. My bad.
[00:06:17] Permanerd:
The next one is a 112 stats from Alice a. Permanent peer to peer is the way. Additionally, we must maintain platform flexibility. Some Nostril clients are more optimized for your needs. Oshi, what are your daily must dos you follow to help you have a better life? Learning more about how to create value on Nostril is a topic I'm very interested in.
[00:06:42] Oshi:
It's a loaded question.
[00:06:43] Permanerd:
Yeah. I think we're gonna save that and and talk about it in the the beefy part of the show. Okay. Yeah. You good with that? Yeah. That's fine with me. Was there any more boosts? There is there's $9.99 from SoapMiner. Woah. What? SoapMiner, legend. Thank you, dude. Yeah. That's sick. Fantastic. There's no message with that. So Oh, he didn't leave a message. Oh, come on. Message. I'm gonna send his stats back to him. And then, there's a 101 stats again from undisciplined that says, way to talk good, guys.
[00:07:21] Oshi:
Thanks,
[00:07:22] Permanerd:
dude. I'm assuming that's how it sounded like.
[00:07:25] Oshi:
We
[00:07:26] Permanerd:
we talk pretty good, I will say. We talk. I like the way you talk. And I'm not really sure where do we I'll just do a couple more of these because I'm did we do the eight eight eight from Sylvie, which is a a rush appreciation
[00:07:42] Oshi:
boost? No. I don't think so. Well,
[00:07:44] Permanerd:
it is. 888 There it went. From Sylvie. Awesome. Thank you. I'm miss it. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Sylvie. There's a little emoji with with hearts emoji face with hearts around it. So we love you too. Definitely. And one ninety nine from oh, no. This one. I think we did this one. Acneide 37? Yeah. Yes. The weird name. Yep. Yeah. And it just says, love the guitar. I also have fountain issues, so that's good. Not the only one.
[00:08:19] Oshi:
Yeah. Sounds great. I I use it mainly, but it's been working for me personally. I don't know what the issue what issues are you having with it? It's the well, they may have fixed it now. There's been a couple updates, but I couldn't I couldn't log in with Nostr.
[00:08:35] Permanerd:
And it would just go into this loop of, you know, give us all the give us all of the permissions. And and I would do that in Amber, which I'm using for my phone as kind of a insect Yeah. Bunker. And and then it would just say log in with and it just go around in a in a circle and I could log in. I ended up getting, I can't remember what it's, a p k pure or something like that, which is an app that you can can put on your phone and then download previous versions of apps. So I found another one since then that's a little less. The other that one had tons of ads, but it was it's very a very useful app to be able to
[00:09:20] Oshi:
revert back from the current version of of different apps. I think That's cool. Is that just is that just for I mean, is that for any app or is that for just Nostril clients or
[00:09:31] Permanerd:
No. It's I'm not exactly sure if it's every app, but it worked for Fountain, which is still fairly obscure in the overall Android ecosystem. Yeah. And so I figure it probably works with most apps. It must just just keep a database of of the different versions and then allow you to pull Yeah. Down from there. So No. That's pretty cool. That's definitely useful to have. It is because otherwise, it's I don't know how you'd revert to a previous version.
[00:10:03] Oshi:
Mhmm. Yeah. I've been reluctant on updating. I have the iPhone still, so I'm very reluctant on updating past where I'm at right now. Just because it's stable, everything works right now. I'm always reluctant on updating to, you know, the latest and greatest thing if it's working for me. Don't really I don't move.
[00:10:21] Permanerd:
I'm the opposite.
[00:10:23] Oshi:
If there's an update button, I'll push it. I mean I I mean I actually did update my phone today. I mean the latest is what is it '26 or something iOS 26 but I'm on still the eight. There's like two different versions of iOS but right now for the iPhone mini 13 is the one that I have right now but yeah I'm just gonna stop there. It's not important. Yeah.
[00:10:46] Permanerd:
And that's there's some sort of extreme security.
[00:10:49] Oshi:
Right. That's what I mean. Yeah. If there's some sort of security thing, I'll go ahead, but
[00:10:54] Permanerd:
we're good. Cool. I think that wraps up the boost. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. There are some boost. I don't know if if we've read them before, but Jim, you know who you are. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Jim. Then Uncle Jim. And there was another one. I'm pretty sure I got a boost from my friend, Ivor, that we got one coming, but it's not showing up here. And there's been I helped him out setting up a, basically a sub wallet on my Albie Nice. Hub. I got a couple. And so I don't know we kinda went through a little bit of of a road bump, and so I'm not sure why it didn't show up or if it even went through or not. Mhmm. Yeah.
[00:11:39] Oshi:
I got a couple, of those for a couple friends to help manage not manage, but to just get them up and going starting to use their own lightning and stuff like that. It's cool that Alby has that. It is. Are you are you paying for Alby? No. So you're running out cloud? That's just the cloud version that they offer though. Right? The paid one? I'm not sure because I'm I'm paying them just to them money. Yeah. The paid one, I think you're able to customize your LN URL. You're able to, like, change it or something. Okay. Yep. That's in the paid one. But no, I don't. I thought about it. Thought about it. I probably should support it because I do use it, but I use a bunch of other ones. But I'm sure this is probably leading up to one of the questions from Alice.
[00:12:21] Permanerd:
Right. Right. There we also like to be transparent on here. And so we we use podhome.fm for hosting. And so it's kinda fun to go through some of the stats real quick for the episodes that we've done. Let's do it. And all time downloads were at 2,403. For the last three episodes uh-oh. We're in trouble. The last one, Abominable Farewell. Sorry, Chad. Was we're at 666 downloads. Nice. And then and then the one before that fearless circular economy is the first episode where we broke 700. So that one's at 703. Wow. That's awesome. That is awesome. Thank you everybody.
Again, I I mean, I can't really thank people enough. It's Yeah. It's amazing. Pretty wild. Where is the majority coming from? Well, as far as podcast players, we're still at 41% Apple Podcasts and 40% Domus.
[00:13:32] Oshi:
We still have to figure that enigma out. No. We really have not.
[00:13:37] Permanerd:
And then fountain comes in third with the 12.58%. Nice. Which is pretty cool. But, yeah, Domus. No. Somebody we ask these questions, but they just get lost in the ether. How are you doing this? And then 79% Apple iPhone, 9% Android phone, and then 5% Apple computer, and then 2% Apple iPad. So basically
[00:14:02] Oshi:
iPad? Wow.
[00:14:04] Permanerd:
And then there's 1.62 Windows computers. Okay.
[00:14:08] Oshi:
Wow. Interesting.
[00:14:10] Permanerd:
Yeah. And then most are from The United States, and then Canada, United Kingdom, and then Switzerland is is fourth. It's interesting.
[00:14:20] Oshi:
That is. And
[00:14:22] Permanerd:
now at the bottom is it was Latvia, but now with probably one download is Vanuatu. Is that the country? It is a yeah. It's Where is that? I've actually never heard of that. It's down Euro Australia, I believe. Oh, okay. I've wanted to go there. I'm I'm I'm pretty sure that is a country that has no property tax. So that if you actually buy land Uh-huh. Then it's yours. Unlike where we live and, you know, you're you're stuck to this tax slavery forever. Vanuatu.
[00:15:00] Oshi:
Do they speak English there? So Vanuatu,
[00:15:04] Permanerd:
small island country. I I don't know. Yeah. I'm curious. Do you speak English in Vanuatu? I mean, they're listening. Somebody listened to this, so maybe Yeah. Hit us up, Vanuatu. Hit us up. Yeah. That's Need to know. That's kind of the the housekeeping bit, I think. We're still working on the overall structure, if you can call it that, of this show.
[00:15:35] Oshi:
I think we just like the way each other talks, so we just go for it. We just go for it. It's good numbers to run through. I'm always curious to hear it. So
[00:15:45] Permanerd:
Anybody want more of this? Let us know. If you want us to stop, let us know. We're lonely. Send us a message.
[00:15:55] Oshi:
No. We got listeners. We're not too lonely.
[00:16:02] Permanerd:
Alright. Do you want to dive into Alice's restaurant?
[00:16:09] Oshi:
I could. She had a couple questions though. Alice, familiar listener, supporter. She's mega supporter of Oshi and Bitcoin Beans, but she had a couple questions. She was asking about the Lightning wallets that we use or which what I don't know. What is recommended, I suppose? Oh, that's right. You
[00:16:35] Permanerd:
want to start that one?
[00:16:37] Oshi:
Sure. I'm no developer. I'm not too tech savvy but there's a few that I would probably recommend. I mean I I use Alby for, just transactions. It's just kind of easy for my setup. I have a start nine unit that I have connected just running my own node. But there's a bunch of other really cool lightweight lightning wallets. There's Rizful. Rizful is really cool. I think the only limitation for that is that it's desktop only. I'm sure you can access it on your phone but there's no dedicated application thing for it. It's solid though. I really do recommend it. You can do on chain transactions through it too which is really cool.
Alby, Zeus. Zeus is pretty heavy, in terms of features and stuff. If you want the node in the phone kind of thing, Zeus is probably a good choice. I've never really had much luck with using it too often though. There seems to be some sort of issue sometimes when I go to try to connect to my node or I don't know. It's it's great though if you're more of the tech savvy user. There's also eCache you can use within it or Cashew, one of those. I think another one I would probably mention is what is it? I have it here. There's too many though. There's honestly too many wallets now to choose from.
There's Bull. Bull Wallet is pretty solid when I have that, but Blitz. Blitz Wallet is another one that you can connect with Noster Wallet Connect. So that's pretty useful for sending Zaps on Noster. But other than that, there's so many other ones. There's Aqua. Aqua is another one that you can use. I don't know. What what do you use for your daily driver? I'm just curious. I also use AlbyGo,
[00:18:27] Permanerd:
which is connected to my Umbral server, which has my my node and my lightning channels on it. And and then but I also use for cold storage, I use a Sparrow wallet to connect to my cold card. Yep. And then another option, because 75 isn't enough, so number 76 is the wallet of Satoshi, which I had luck with before. I haven't used in a while. But it's also you can send on chain to the wallet and it will convert it to the Lightning Network. Mhmm. So that's handy as well.
[00:19:07] Oshi:
Yeah. Aqua does the same thing. I think Aqua Wallet uses liquid for the swapping. I don't know too much about the technology there but it's pretty handy. Yeah. Don't know any of the there's liquid, e cash,
[00:19:21] Permanerd:
what is it, nuts? Cashew. Cashew.
[00:19:26] Oshi:
Yeah. It's all it's all very confusing stuff if you're just getting into this, for sure. It's all just elements of Bitcoin though. It's all, you know, it's basically Bitcoin at this point. But, you know, for me, I just keep it simple. I don't use eCash or Cashew very much at all. I just use the Lightning Network and, you know, I run a few channels. You run a few channels too. I will say, you mentioned it already, but Spero Spero wallet is I definitely recommend getting to the point where you're using that. I just find it so useful, especially for managing your UTXOs and stuff like that. That's really helpful. I don't think many people, especially just starting out in Bitcoin, have a conception about the UTXO stuff. You know how you just make a bunch of small transactions and then those pile up and then you go to make some sort of transaction in the future and it costs you so much and it's because you have all these individual column like bills in your wallet kind of thing.
And yeah, those kind of amount up. So you can manage your UTXO stuff within Spero which is really handy. Which is just a Consolidation.
[00:20:32] Permanerd:
Yeah. Basically you take a you know those machines at the grocery store, I don't know if they have them anymore, where you take a jar full of change and dump it in and then it gives you like larger bills. Yeah. Dump your change in and it spits out a $20 bill.
[00:20:46] Oshi:
Yeah. Exactly. Yep. Yeah. Lots of lots of layers to this stuff. It is. And it like you said, it can be overwhelming,
[00:20:54] Permanerd:
but Mhmm. It it can also be fairly simple. Yeah. So don't let it don't let it get you down, and we're we're more than happy to help if you reach out and for the whatever limited knowledge that we both have on the subject.
[00:21:11] Oshi:
Yeah. I think it's also helpful though because we actually use it. We're We use it every day, and we've spent at least a few years in this space of finding our way, what works for us, and I think that's important to share, what works for us and hearing that personally from somebody. I know for me personally when I hear that from someone and they're talking and they're set up, always listening trying to gather something that I can just take from them. So hopefully this is useful to some people listening, I don't know. For sure. And it's easy to fall into that category
[00:21:45] Permanerd:
of, you know, this is this is really simple. You know, just just do this and it's and it's really simple. But there are always snafus in there and sometimes it's easy to forget that you had them as well. And now you've got that background knowledge so that it does seem like it's simple, whereas somebody that's new to it and just grabbing a a lightning wallet or Bitcoin in general. And it's just so overwhelming because it seems like most of the information is, you know, white paper level in-depth whereas you just kinda look and just eyes glaze over and drool starts coming outside of the mouth.
[00:22:25] Oshi:
Start foaming out the mouth. Yeah. It's you just gotta keep it simple, one bite at a time. There's not really one good place to start. You just kinda gotta dive in. You just I mean, this is kinda how I started. I just started just owning Bitcoin and I forced myself to learn. I I really think that's what you have to do. You have to force yourself to learn the thing or rather encounter a situation where you're forced to learn it. I remember when I was setting up my node and I had Falou, our friend Falouf on Noster, who runs SweetSats.
He's been a legend in my setting up all this stuff early on. Shout out to Falouf, man. He's he's such he's such a great help in setting this stuff up. He's very tech savvy in this stuff, so it's helpful to have people like that around you. And you can find all these people on Nosser. Just make friends and you know, if you have a question, don't be afraid to ask because if you don't ask, you don't get, you know, so
[00:23:20] Permanerd:
Well, most of the people that are involved in it also have a vested interest in the ecosystem Mhmm. Taking off, you know, this economy taking off and are more than willing to help a newbie come in because that's the only way. What's it called? The the it's like a social media thing where you once you get enough people oh, man. Oh.
[00:23:47] Oshi:
Network network effect? Is that Yeah. Mean, it's a network effect. There is a name though to it. I'll think of it. But yeah. Abominable. Yeah. The abominable effect. Yeah. There's that book by Jeffrey West called Scale. It it all talks about this stuff. Recommended read, by the way.
[00:24:10] Permanerd:
Scale. Okay. Metcalfe's
[00:24:12] Oshi:
Law or something like that. But it just makes sense, know. It's like when you think about cells, blood cells in your body or any cells, know, once a cell leaves the system, it dies. So for as long as a system is thriving, the cells want to stay, they want to contribute. It's so the Internet and whatever else, whatever is contributing and adding value and has solid structure behind it with integrity and, you know, call it truth, like, it's going to work. So you wanna be part of it. You wanna stumble into it and support it because if you support it, you support a better world and everyone else, I don't know, benefits from it. That's just my mind. It may be stupidly simple but I think it's pretty true.
[00:24:56] Permanerd:
I don't know. So what you're saying is be the hemoglobin.
[00:24:59] Oshi:
Be the hemoglobin. Oh my god. That's a sick t shirt. Be the hemoglobin. That's awesome dude.
[00:25:13] Permanerd:
I think that hopefully that answers your your question, Alice. If you need if you need more rambling, let us know and we can definitely continue.
[00:25:24] Oshi:
But she had the other question about daily routine or, know, how to improve your daily life kind of thing. She did. What's your what's your daily routines?
[00:25:35] Permanerd:
Well, it differs, but what I try to do is get up early. I usually I've been in this routine before. I kinda got out of it. I'm trying to get back into it, which is get up at five and then try to do at least twenty minutes of yoga. Nice. And then this one, I've been trying to find time to write as well. Mhmm. And then get a cup of coffee. And I'm hoping to figure out how to meditate. Mhmm. So and then I'm usually the one making breakfast and things like that in the morning. And then basically being a slave to a child for the rest of the day.
He appreciates it. I'm sure. Yeah. And then the other I'll just add The other things that are are very important to me are getting outside as much as possible and making sure to get sunlight when it's out. I think I got a bit too much on my shoulders yesterday, but it felt pretty good. And then also just to touch soil, touch grass Mhmm. Like, just get grounded. I think that there's a lot of people that you know, it sounds like woohoo type of witchcraft that the sun is good and that, you know, grounding yourself to the earth is is beneficial.
But as I get older, I start realizing that all the things that I was taught prior to this has been a lot of hogwash, and maybe there is something to be said about ancient, healing modalities and, you know, it's not all about pharmaceuticals and vitamins and pill form. Supplements. Yeah, exactly.
[00:27:21] Oshi:
Yeah, no I completely agree. Everything is just energy and vibration at the end of the day. But my routine is kinda similar. I usually try to wake up when the sun rises or whenever the birds start chirping. So it's usually around six, as of lately, 6AM, something like that. And then the thing for me that I've been doing for, oh gosh, at least three years now, I do cold showers every morning and sometimes I don't want to do it but for me it's not so much the health thing it's more of the mentality kind of thing. If doing it for this long you start to develop the ability to confront difficult things a lot easier so it's kind of like a conditioning kind of thing for me, and I honestly just enjoy doing it. And then after that, it's usually I do some chi exercises kind of outside in the sun whenever it's coming up in the morning and grounding, do some meditation afterwards. Been doing that pretty consistently, twenty minutes meditation for a better part of like two months, three months consistently now.
And it's really interesting. I found this guy, Tom Campbell. I'm not sure if you've ever heard of this name, but he's a physicist who basically studied consciousness and meditation and kinda mapped it out and very analytic analytical kinda guy, but super spiritual and just fascinating insights on this stuff, and he really got me on it. But I've been doing that consistently, and it's been helpful personally. And, yeah, just get out in the sun. I try to swim when I can if there's a river. If I'm home, I definitely try to swim and just try to be outside as much as I can. That sun just makes you feel so much better versus just being inside all day.
Don't know how these people that have office jobs just, I don't know, eight hours a day inside? It's crazy and you wonder how we have this health issue in our society. It's pretty crazy and the solution to my mind is so simple, I don't know.
[00:29:25] Permanerd:
People just gotta get outside more. Well it's also being inside under those fluorescent lights as Yeah,
[00:29:33] Oshi:
it's so interesting. Again, it's just frequency and energy. Those lights, they're not full spectrum and there's been a lot of science even, what's his name, Jonathan Ott, John Ott in the 60s, 70s did a lot of experiments with isolating particular frequencies of light on plants and seeing how plants react to that. So I mean, if plants react to that, surely we do as well. And these lights, these fluorescent light bulbs or LEDs, whatever, it's isolating just the blue frequency. And that alone literally causes an increase in cortisol levels in you. So you don't even have to eat anything to raise your cortisol. It's just the light alone. So it's just really important to at least be mindful of these things and try to shift your daily life just a little bit.
People can do what they want. But at the end of the day, it's you can't deny this stuff. It really is just energy and if you're gonna argue with energy that it's like arguing it with gravity to my mind. You can deny it all you want but your equations and calculations are gonna be totally not correct. So and that comes with then disease or whatever sickness that people get from their diet or whatever they're doing but people can do what they want. Yes. It's there's a lot of a lot of misinformation.
[00:30:59] Permanerd:
And even when you're going through schooling, you're sitting in the same conditions under those obnoxious fluorescent lights indoors. And and so it it almost becomes normalized. And so it it might not be your fault that you are in terrible conditions and Right. And, you know, your body's breaking down, but it is your problem. Yeah. Like you said, there are ways to fix it. And that actually brought up a couple more things that are in my daily routine. And one of them is as soon as it starts getting in the evening, I put on blue blocking glasses, blue light blocking glasses, which are an orange tint.
And because blue light is not something that happens outside after a certain time of the day. Right? You get it in the middle of the day, basically, and then that spectrum is when and the way I understand it is that as soon as you stop getting that blue light is when your circadian rhythm starts kicking in, you know, like you realize that it's time to to wind down. And so if you're getting that blue light from your computer or watching TV or your phone Right. Then it doesn't allow your sleep cycle to kick in when it's supposed to. Right.
[00:32:17] Oshi:
And so Yeah, that go ahead, sorry. No, was just gonna say it's it's that's so important. Like the the light that comes out of these screens that we hold, you know, with our phone or laptop, that frequency is isolated. It's And that triggers what I mentioned about the cortisol levels. And it tells your body that it's noon when it's literally 9PM. So your body is just totally out of sync. You gotta think about I make the analogy sometimes to friends whenever I'm happen to be talking about this stuff one way or another. Think about like spark plugs or pistons in a car. Everything and think about Bitcoin as well.
It's all about timing. If that timing is off, the firing of the pistons and whatnot, it's not going to function properly. Your body's not going to function properly if you're not getting the right information for your body to do its thing to produce the hormones that it needs to produce because the body is getting the information through your eyes, through your iris, through your retina from the light. And when I learned that stuff, because I've always been interested in health and fasting and just mental stuff and psychedelics and things like that. So when I started to learn about light, it was the last thing that I just didn't consider and being a photographer too. So I found it really fascinating to learn this that the frequency matters so much and what these screens are doing.
If they were full spectrum, which no laptop or computer is, I think the daylight computers or something like that have they don't have the blue light frequency or something. I've never used one but yeah it's really detrimental over time especially now. I'm sure it wasn't a big deal in the 60s or early on but now we have these devices and this knowledge has been understood. I mean you go back to MKUltra stuff and you know DARPA and things like that. These guys knew this technology and they're using it against us for you know for keeping us addicted to these things. It's really what it is. It's all just to control and addict us to I don't know, and to like pull our information and surveillance and it's fucked up. Yeah and it's also to keep us unhealthy too. That too. It's all the same thing, yeah.
You ever listened to Jack Kruse? Yeah. I you know, a lot of people shit on him but I actually quite think he's very intelligent, very smart in a lot of things but yeah. Definitely. So that's somebody I would I would recommend to I mean, if you're if you're talking trash about him, I don't think you've listened to it. I know. This is the thing. Like people like to trash on him because he's over he's not even overweight. He goes into actually sometimes what happened to him? Because he's a neurosurgeon. The guy's a neurosurgeon. And a dentist. Yeah, this guy is very smart. He's not a dumbass. He has a lot of experience and a lot of this research as well what I was saying about DARPA and all these other programs that were doing research on this stuff. He has a lot of ties with the where did he go to school? New Orleans which had a lot of the development stuff going on there. But yeah, Jack Kruse is definitely someone I would definitely just touch upon with his knowledge on light, mitochondria, energy production, things like that. But, yeah, he's he's great. Definitely recommend. Yeah. For sure. It is it's quite amazing.
[00:35:41] Permanerd:
The that is something else that I've been trying to do more. We ended up getting an infrared sauna. Nice. So at night taking a sauna, and it has it has red light therapy lamp in it as well. Mhmm. And so just trying to flip that on, which I don't get to do that often because I'm usually in there with with the kid, and and it's it's pretty it's a pretty obnoxious light. And so he doesn't really like it, But just sitting and and sweating for for a while is also in the routine.
[00:36:14] Oshi:
Yeah. Sweating sweating is so important. Your skin is your third kidney, you know. So it's good to eliminate
[00:36:19] Permanerd:
what you can when you can. And then I I wanted to bring up the it's it's along the lines of what you were saying about, you know, the blue light and how when you have it at the wrong time, it it throws you off and just I've been listening to some things too about about food and eating eating locally, you know, not not eating a a pineapple in the middle of winter in Northern Canada and just eating the food that that grows where you're at at that time of the year as much as possible. And I think that also, you know, we're working on that with producing our own food, but Cool. We still eat bananas and and everything else.
Mhmm. And so I'm I'm interested in learning more about about just the the benefits of food. And then if you're growing it too, I believe that the plants are almost specializing themselves for you. Mhmm. You know, I've heard of people that that pour their own piss onto plants and now it's got it's got part of your your makeup in the plant. And then and I don't know if that that might be a bit far fetched for people to believe, but I think I don't doubt it.
[00:37:36] Oshi:
I don't doubt it. It makes sense. I don't know. I mean, I've never heard that, but I I wouldn't doubt that for a second.
[00:37:46] Permanerd:
And that is peeing on the plants when they're producing, not peeing on them after when you're about to eat them. Yeah. Just to get that out there. Mhmm. Mhmm. Don't piss Yeah. Down when you eat it. Well, mean do what you wanna do but
[00:37:59] Oshi:
Yeah, kids at school are now gonna be doing some experiments where they try to grow an apple tree seed with their urine. It doesn't work like that guys.
[00:38:12] Permanerd:
Although High in nitrogen.
[00:38:14] Oshi:
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, very important stuff. I try to do that, the light stuff, the food stuff. The food thing was a really interesting point. It's very much like a bar code, you know, if you eat locally your body recognizes it and knows what to do with it. If it's something outside of your zone your body's gonna have a hard time metabolically trying to process that. It's not saying that you shouldn't eat it you know. You're just gonna have some sort of metabolic consequence. It's the same thing with like barcode in a store. If you try to bring in something outside of that store and try to scan it, it's not gonna register. It's not gonna be able to read it.
So I think the analogy is pretty similar to that. But I'm not a doctor. Yeah, right. So what the hell do I know? That's the only reason I trust you. I do eat twice a day. Eat breakfast and then I just eat a dinner. I don't really eat like three meals a day kind of thing. Breakfast is pretty important though I would say.
[00:39:12] Permanerd:
Usually eat three meals. We usually well we always eat together at the at the the dining room table and That's important too. Play games. We just got a a game sent to us called Pass the Pig. Pass the Pig? Yeah. So there's just these little rubber pigs and you roll them and depending on how they land, you get a certain amount of points if they're on their feet, whatever. Whatever. But But stuff stuff like like that. That, Uno, Uno, Queen's Queen's Domino, Domino, Splendor,
[00:39:40] Oshi:
like, just we are That's fun. Playing games. Yeah. That's that's more important I think too. It's not just delight and all that stuff, but it's really grounding with, you know, your family, your close ones, your friends. And I think more and more and more people are I don't know. I catch myself sometimes in this. Sometimes I like to watch or listen to something when I'm eating, but doing better with not doing that, trying to just enjoy the meal or with a friend or a family member instead of listening to something on your phone or a podcast or something. It's always distracting away from because when you eat, it's an experience. You should be enjoying that, especially if it's a meal that you make yourself, which is something I do all the time. I never go out to eat, man. Like, I make my stuff all the time. So it's just more grounding in that way. People should probably do that more. Yeah. We do too. I we just bought a side of beef.
[00:40:34] Permanerd:
So he's just been just grinding on unbelievable grass fed, no hormones or antibiotic beef. Sick. It's so nice.
[00:40:43] Oshi:
It was a local that you picked it up? It is. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's cool. There's some beef in our grocery store here that is from the next state over, which is kind of cool. It's not a, you know, it's not like a local butcher per se, but it's beef from, you know, pretty close. So that's that's my go to.
[00:41:03] Permanerd:
Another thing that that I've been trying to do, I don't know if this falls under routine is just I try to be a better person every day. Yeah, man. It doesn't always work. And I've I mean, I I look back and, you know, life is life. And, you know, I've I've I've had a bit of a wild one at times. And I know that I've been a dick to people in the past. Mhmm. Same. So sorry for that if you're listening and I've been a dick to you. Excuse me. But I'm I'm working on, you know, I think that a lot of that is just impatience and Mhmm. And I've been working on being a more person and not letting things get to me Yeah. As much.
[00:41:50] Oshi:
Yeah. I was experiencing a little bit of that yesterday. A thing I'll add to that, I usually do this every single day, it's usually late in the evenings, sometimes when I wake up and when I meditate for sure in the mornings but usually in the evenings I go through a list of things that I'm just grateful for, just simple, they could be even just simple things, some of the things I list is just, I don't know, I mean it's all in the moment kind of thing whenever I'm thinking about them. But just my curiosity for things, ability to just have the artistic abilities that I have, I'm grateful for those and just my family and the sun, how if was out that day, I'm thankful for that, my God. It's better than snow or freaking rain.
So I just go through a list of those things every every evening and I find it helpful. I I find myself a bit more peaceful because that's ultimately what I think people should try to seek is not exactly happiness, it's more of just being peace peaceful because you're gonna have emotions. It's helpful to feel those emotions. They actually can help you grow but ultimately I think being peaceful is the
[00:42:59] Permanerd:
the North Star here. Tell that to the governments of the world.
[00:43:04] Oshi:
Yeah. I know. Yeah. They obscure the hell out of it. Well, that's another detriment to health is is just people
[00:43:12] Permanerd:
that are constantly looking at and reading the mainstream media and and news and just this this constant barrage of of negativity. And, eventually, that also takes a a harrowing effect on your on your body when, you know, there's we're the, like, the only animal, I think, in the world that doesn't get over things quickly. You know, like a a lion, maybe it gets into a fight with a rhino and then it's done. And then, you know, it's back to its resting state or to the, you know, the state of of low adrenaline, whereas we're just getting bombarded with things that almost trigger our our fight or flight Yeah.
Instincts. And so we're constantly in this state of semi aggression or, you know, just nervousness that that is unhealthy where we need to just get to that baseline. But whenever you're whenever you're getting bombarded with such negative news, you can't you can't relax that much. Yeah. And it's not even just the news. I mean, that's that's the the thing that
[00:44:26] Oshi:
seeps in more easily into you from the news is because of the light and the food and everything. You become it's like I don't know. You just become so docile and susceptible to that kind of stuff more easily. So it's interesting to see this circle back and interest in meditation and things like that. I think that's something that we used to do more of. I think we used to just kind of be in that natural state more or less, but now it's just further and further away from it to keep us where we're at, basically just freaking sheep at this point but Yeah, just sitting in a giant circle in Plato's Yeah, yeah exactly.
But I don't know, I think things are turning around, it has to, it's just the natural way, that's the way that nature works, it's just this ebb and flow kind of thing. It's cycles, know, you're gonna go really far out but you're gonna come back to the mean. It has to at some point. It's gonna get so ridiculous where or who knows man, the frickin' asteroid can just come and just be like, alright, you guys had enough time.
[00:45:32] Permanerd:
Well, and I think there's people that are just waiting for that too. You know, there's That too. There's a in Canada here, there's the MAID program, which is medical assisted in dying, I think, or in death, where you stub your toe and like, well, you know what? We've got this solution. Alright. That might be hyperbolic. But the the I've I've talked to some older people and and they're like, well, as soon as it gets to the point where I'm not comfortable anymore, I'm taking that option and and getting out of here. And I just can't it's just so I don't know. It's so odd to me that that there's just this I don't It's the easy button, I guess. Yeah. And Yeah. Again, you do you boo, but it's just not something that I would that I've ever considered, like yeah. There's a place for it. There's a place for it, but not when you push it so hard. Yeah. I agree. I agree. We
[00:46:27] Oshi:
gotta end on a light note here.
[00:46:29] Permanerd:
Absolutely. You, you were telling me earlier that you bought a Yes.
[00:46:34] Oshi:
Yes. Good call. I I had a trip to Charlotte. I had to pick up, actually I had to pick up some cacao for Bitcoin beans, from someone in Charlotte. So that kind of worked out nicely. And while I was there, just walking around downtown for a bit, I thought I'd go into a coffee shop, see if I could see if they take Bitcoin. So I found a shop and they did. They had a Square POS system and I was actually the first one, the guy told me to ask about Bitcoin and actually use it. Let me shout out their name. I have it written here. What was it? Yeah, Wild Roots. Wild Roots Coffee in Charlotte. Check them out.
Definitely, thank you for allowing me to be your first. That's super cool.
[00:47:16] Permanerd:
Nice. Out in the wild. Yep. I've I tried to orange peel a hot dog guy. There's a a local I'll shout them out to Swain Creek Cidery. If you're on Vancouver Island, check them out. I don't I don't drink alcohol anymore, but their apple their sparkling apple juice was amazing. It was fantastic. And so I would imagine that the the cider is probably pretty Oh, I'm sure. Too. But they've they took some freeze dried fruits and are selling them at their cidery. And Oh, cool. They just opened on May 1, so we stopped in to give them some support.
And they're they're having a different food truck every day of the week, I believe. So we ordered some hot dogs from this guy, and then it was taking a while because he had to cook some fresh ones. And and I was talking to him and just like most conversations that I have with Bitcoin came up and he was, I asked him what he was taking for a payment provider, a payment service. And he said square. I said, ah, have you, have you enabled Bitcoin yet? And he was shocked. He had, he said he had Bitcoin many, many years ago, but has got out of it. You know, it's that mentality of it's a commodity to be bought low and sold high, you know, not, not money.
And, but he was interested in, I told him if he, if he, if he got it working, that I would buy another hot dog with Bitcoin. And we couldn't figure out on the square and this is in Canada. So I don't know if if it's not available. You know, we're looking up, and it looked like it was supposed to be available in Canada, but we couldn't find how to enable it on Square. And so it never the transaction came
[00:49:08] Oshi:
through. Yeah. See, that's the thing with Square. They need to make this a lot easier for for everyone involved, the merchant and the person buying. So it it seems to be a common theme through my experience as well. It's not exactly clear how to set it up you know.
[00:49:25] Permanerd:
I know we tried to use chat GPT to walk us through as well and Oh while you were there? Yeah yeah yeah he was keen man.
[00:49:35] Oshi:
That's awesome. But it just For as long as people are are keen and hungry to learn and be open to it. That's that's a that's a win in my book. It was because he's the first person
[00:49:47] Permanerd:
that well, that's that's not true. There was a cannabis shop once back in the day, and I was trying to get them to to do and they were interested, but they couldn't because of their business or something. Oh. The They're the perfect business. Right. And but I think that it's against Canadian regulations or something like that. Something stupid. Uh-huh. Everyone else just
[00:50:12] Oshi:
kinda laughs it off and goes Yeah. The guy at the coffee shop was kind of like scoffing at it for a minute and then he realized oh we actually do and I was like yeah man it's just money like let me use it. You guys get the fiat if you want it because that's the thing they can still get the fiat currency. It's such a cool system. I love how Square has set that up to where they can just convert it for them or they can do what is it? I think $50.50 split. I'm not sure but shout out to Square for doing good things.
Block, Square. I'm not sure which. Yeah. Who knows?
[00:50:49] Permanerd:
I'm starting to keep track of all of that. Oh, and then I just I just before we we sign off, I remember that Alice had asked a question about how we convert between Lightning and On Chain.
[00:51:03] Oshi:
Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. I'll go. I think the way I mostly I'm trying to think of my process as of lately. So whenever I receive payments through my shop, it goes into my Lightning channels. And then when those channels start to get full, what I do is I swap it out on chain to Wasabi and I do some coin joins there before I send it out to my cold storage which is managed with Sparrow Wallet. So that's kind of my on chain swap thing is I swap it out from my Lightning channels via either Thunder Hub or Ride the Lightning or actually or just from my Albi and yeah I just go right to Wasabi for coin joins.
The thing though is that there's just so many different ways. Again, there's what's your process? Well, I was gonna you
[00:51:58] Permanerd:
maybe you could talk about why you use CoinJoin.
[00:52:01] Oshi:
Oh, for coin yeah. It's just something that I I picked up as I was just going along my Bitcoin journey trying to learn, you know, a little bit better about privacy and best practices and things. CoinJoin seem to be an extra step of privacy whether or not it's necessary or not, it's up for debate. I think it may be helpful if that's the name of your game that you're trying to play with it. Cause Bitcoin itself is not exactly private. It's it's pretty public. So I just do coin joins where it's a group of people all pooled together in a transaction and everybody's coins is basically mixed up in the output. So you don't know so it's hard for someone to trace where your coins are going to what address. That's really the basic explanation for it for the reason why I do it.
Yeah. I'm not sure if that's helpful,
[00:52:50] Permanerd:
it's really the only reason why I do it. So it's sort of like a it's like a key party. You throw your keys in the in the fishbowl, and then whoever's key you get. Yeah.
[00:53:00] Oshi:
Yeah. That's one way to think about it.
[00:53:03] Permanerd:
I've used Alby as well, and I was just looking to see what what it's called. I can't remember what what is is it swap or something? What do you mean? Yeah.
[00:53:16] Oshi:
It it's like an atomic swap is what it's called, I believe. And that was
[00:53:21] Permanerd:
that was fine. There's some transactions in transaction fees involved with that. And Yep. It was I think they may have made it easier, but I was having some real problems. I tried to use Ride the Lightning before or or Thunder Hub. Yeah. Yeah. And and just wasn't it wasn't going through. I mean, I have problems. Sometimes I I dig in and try to balance my channels, and I'm not super great at that either. But what I did this last time was I use ShakePay, which is an app up in Canada. And that's how I do my my DCA ing, which is just daily cost averaging. So I buy a small amount of Bitcoin every day through them and they allow one transaction a month on chain for cover the fees.
And so what I did River does the same. Okay. Nice. What I did was I just used because they have, they have implemented lightning now as well. And so I throw stats into that from, from my lightning or from my Albie Hub. And then take that once month a month free transaction and move it to my wallet from from ShakePay because then it's it's on chain and then it just goes into my my cold storage. So that is maybe a bit convoluted and certainly not coin join y, or it's not a washing machine of any sort. Get another another company touching it before before it goes in. But that's just the experimental process of how to do all these things. So
[00:55:03] Oshi:
Yeah. Coin joining isn't necessarily a required thing. But for me, personally, I just find it to, it's just an extra step to help with privacy. But again, it's not required. And it's not even that complicated of a thing. There's many ways to do it. There's the whole what is the Samurai? The Samurai guys that are going through this whole thing. I'm not sure if you're keeping up with the their case at all, the Samurai wallet thing. I do listen to the Bitcoin and podcast,
[00:55:33] Permanerd:
so that's where I get most of the Oh, okay. Yeah. News.
[00:55:36] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. So that was, another coin join y kind of thing too, but it's pretty unfortunate that those guys are going through what they're going through. But it's ultimately just code and they yeah. That's a whole other topic. Yeah. It's just control mechanisms again. Yeah. Before we end, I thought about a name for bringing on, like, the merchants. Yes. Kind of like the, what about we can change the name obviously, but call it the market square. I like it. Yeah. And I thought about who for this one. Shout out to, Satoshi Coffee just because I was talking with him today, but I I do use his coffee for my, coffee huddle butter. It's pretty awesome, I will say. It's my favorite variant of the huddle butter. But, yeah, Satoshi coffee. Great great grounds.
[00:56:27] Permanerd:
Nice. I'm yet to have tried it. If you want to send some, I'm happy to receive it up here in Canada.
[00:56:36] Oshi:
Yeah. We gotta do a trade. We gotta do, like, a a butter and dried fruits trade. Nice. Do you do you know why
[00:56:43] Permanerd:
you know that Canada's actually spelled C N D? C N D? Yeah. So then but What do you mean? But then when it's spelled up here, it's C A N A N A.
[00:56:58] Oshi:
Is that true? Yeah. It's true.
[00:57:01] Permanerd:
But and we'll give a shout out to Alice too. You you were mentioning
[00:57:07] Oshi:
there are some seasonings or something? Oh, yeah. Thanks for reminding me. Yeah. No. She sent me this chai spice cacao mix, which she uses, bitcoin beans, cacao, and grinds up a bunch of other stuff here. I have it here because I I did want to mention it. I would take some of that as well. Not, know, not Yeah. It's it's really, really good. Yeah. Shout out, Alice. This this stuff is awesome. The ingredients in this is cacao, coconut sugar, cinnamon, ginger, cardamom, nutmeg, chaga powder, sea salt, vanilla bean powder, cloves.
Smells amazing. I wish you could smell it through the microphone. Here. Open it.
[00:57:48] Permanerd:
Oh, yeah. Smell it. Smell it. Take a whiff. Yeah. That smells amazing.
[00:57:52] Oshi:
Yeah. It smells so good. I just love smelling it. It's bit But, yeah, I've been I've been Smells like all holidays mixed into one. Yeah, does smell like a holiday in a can. It's awesome. Been making pretty much every day with it, just like a tablespoon mixed with some milk or usually just milk. I find that boiling a little bit of water first and dissolving it in that first and then adding the milk seems to help. So it's
[00:58:20] Permanerd:
really good. Sweet. Yeah. Oh, north of the border. I'm feeling a bit left out here. Cool, man. Well, I think that I was recording, and I would imagine you were recording, so we might get this out in the next couple of days. This is gonna be a rough weekend. We've got baseball all day tomorrow. And then on Sunday, we start a new new baseball league. So we're traveling an hour and a half for a doubleheader An hour. In Campbell River, British Columbia.
[00:58:53] Oshi:
Wow. That's a long drive for a baseball game. Well, after You guys better win. Yeah.
[00:58:58] Permanerd:
Well, this is, this is distilled. Right now, our Oceanside baseball has four different teams. And so this is almost a distilled version of the four teams. So I I think that I mean, we've got some some pretty stellar players on this team. So but Yeah. That's my limited knowledge of you nine baseball. We seem to be good players.
[00:59:22] Oshi:
I actually went to another baseball game over here close to my house. Just a high school team, but it's always nice to just I love watching baseball. Baseball baseball is awesome, man.
[00:59:33] Permanerd:
It is. It's one of those sports that is much better in person than on TV, I think. Definitely. I'm a little bit biased towards hockey, but love me some baseball. So one of the coaches at the at baseball the other day was we were talking. He's like, god, man, the Canucks, they didn't get the first round pick. You see that? You know? Or they didn't get the first overall pick. I have no idea about hockey. Got it. But I'm I'm upset with you. Like, this is this is ruining my day.
[01:00:07] Oshi:
Yeah. I've kinda dropped out keeping up with sports and getting the whole, my team won, my team lost kinda thing. Like, shut up. You didn't play. Yeah. Exactly. It's not your team. Oh,
[01:00:18] Permanerd:
I've got another thing here real quick. This is gonna be like the the longest one more thing in the history Let's go. Between us. My kid has started being interested in Pokemon. Hell, yeah. And and so we've been going to like, we we went through baseball cards for a while, but there's nowhere to buy them around here that we found. And so now there's a a local collectibles shop, it's called. And so he's got all these bulk Pokemon. I don't know. In baseball card collecting back in the day, we call them commons.
And so we've been buying stacks of those for $5 from him and then telling him that we'll bring back in doubles and and trying to work that that way. So that that's actually been quite fun. We're both trying to build a a set. That's awesome. And and then at night before bed, we sit there and kinda bat like this. Sometimes we'll look up the value of a card and one will be 35¢ and one will be 25¢. Whoever's is 35¢ gets those two cards. Just finding finding games to to play.
[01:01:28] Oshi:
I'll tell you another collection that I kinda go deep on are marbles, vintage marbles. Jabbo, to be specific. Jabbo. Yeah. Yeah. Jabbo's marbles, like, from the nineties. That's artwork. Yeah. They really are. They're really sick. They're not like your cat's eyes or, you know, generic looking marbles. Like, they're really nice. Especially if you learn the the process into how they're made and stuff with, like, melting the glass, and it's very particular techniques in the machine. It's so cool. I love I love a good looking marble. Just get lost in it when you're looking at it. I
[01:02:07] Permanerd:
like marbling in beef. Does that count?
[01:02:10] Oshi:
Definitely. Love me a good marbled steak and stuff like that.
[01:02:17] Permanerd:
Well, I wanna throw an offer out there for people if if you've got Pokemon cards and you wanna I'm I'm not looking for $100,000 cards or just just I don't even know what I'm looking for. But get You don't want a holographic Vaporeon?
[01:02:36] Oshi:
Yeah. Sure. I do. But A Japanese holographic Vaporeon?
[01:02:40] Permanerd:
Send it send it here. Another one I've heard is a is a Had it. Crit no. What is it called? The Charizard
[01:02:47] Oshi:
or something. Hell yeah. Charizard.
[01:02:50] Permanerd:
But Charmillion. If you're looking to get get rid of part of your collection or something that is going to be fairly cheap, we're looking for more Pokemon cards. I'll be Make a post on Noster. I'll be trading I'll trade for for for Bitcoin.
[01:03:09] Oshi:
I wonder if anyone's made like some big sells of Pokemon through with Bitcoin. You would think so. I mean, it's I'm not looking for a big sale, but it'll be a sale.
[01:03:21] Permanerd:
It would be. And we do have Be a cool sale. We do have a email address, which is say hi, sayhi@urthealgo.com. So that is still it's collecting dust. There's been nothing sent to it. Don't make me regret buying that URL please and and send us a email. Send it. Send it. Alright. Oshi, where could people find you? What do you wanna what do you want them to know?
[01:03:52] Oshi:
Oh, a couple of things. I got invited to make a music playlist the other day. You may have seen the account, Bard Sounds Project on Nostr. Seems pretty cool. He reached out. Mike, I think his name was. He asked if I wanted to make a track list, 10 songs or something. So that'll be coming out soon. Probably in the next few days. So that'll be cool to share some music. Store stuff, I actually just got a fresh batch of huddle butter. Creamy and crunchy. It's in the shop. Oh, and the the jam, huddle jam. That's in there too.
What else? Promo code Yata, y a t a, at checkout for a few sets off and what else? I think that's I think that's it. That's it for me. Oh,
[01:04:43] Permanerd:
website only, oshigood dot us and Noster only. That's where you can find me. I always keep forgetting that. So we'll use the the email as a bridge to Noster. So if you don't know what Noster is or you have want more information on it, send us an email and we'll get you sorted out to get on the Noster and then we communicate real people and not Neanderthals. Hey.
[01:05:11] Oshi:
What's new on your end? What's in the shop? Oh, everything's in the shop.
[01:05:15] Permanerd:
I haven't got order for a while. I've been pretty lax as far as posting or anything on Nostrad. I did have that sale to the the cidery, which was nice. If you want to order some freeze dried fruit or some comfrey salve, it's sats,thenumber4snacks.com. And I will look for your order. If not order from Oshi or from Satoshi Coffee or from Alice or from SoapMiner or anyone else that is in this circular economy of of Bitcoin that we are involved in and trying to promote as much as possible because sound money buys sound products. And I will be out in my yard planting.
This morning, I was planting some trying to to add plants to different guilds that I have. So I was in the hibiscus guild planting some some strawberries and ground cherries and Nice. A tomato plant just to see what happens and marigolds. So, yeah, use your life like a permaculture guild and make it as diverse as possible, and you'll become sustainable and resilient. Mhmm.
[01:06:40] Oshi:
Wise words from a wise man. Alright.
[01:06:44] Permanerd:
You're gonna play us out?
[01:06:46] Oshi:
Yeah. I'll play a little thing. Alright, brother. Alright.
[01:07:22] Permanerd:
Yada.
I'll do a quick little, little riff stir here.
[00:00:38] Permanerd:
Hello, and welcome to the Yada Pod Podcast where you are the algorithm. I am Permanerd, and I am joined by my good friend and purveyor of amazing guitar riffs,
[00:00:51] Oshi:
Oishi. How you doing, man? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. We're back, finally. It's been a while. Has been a while. I'm back, two feet on the ground so to speak. So This
[00:01:04] Permanerd:
will be episode five b perhaps. We had technical difficulties last week. So we're gonna try it again this week and and see how it goes. Yep. We got lots to talk about though. We do have lots to talk about. This is a value for value podcast which means that we put it out and you put it in your ear holes if you want to. And then any value that you feel like you've you've gotten or that you'd like to give back, we're happy to receive, and that comes in the form of notes on Noster, sharing the show, even just listening to the show. So we appreciate that, and thank you. Mhmm.
We do have some boosts from the last show or from the last episode that we had here. And we'll start with 499 stats from user 59437352. And that is from the last episode, Abominable Farewell. Sorry, Chad f. You are not abominable. And it says, thanks, guys. Especially impressed that you're trading sats despite the odorous taxation theft. Odorous taxation theft. I like that. Odorous. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know what that means. Is that like abominable? Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm sure that I can use it incorrectly.
Odorous. So thank you semi you anonymous user. And our next one is 318 sats from RevHoddle. Nice. That's cool. And that says, glad to see the crossover of Nostr Merchant and Bitcoin meetups. Nostril is the digital place where Bitcoiners can con congregate, but to find the local Bitcoiners, a whole new market and potential emerges. I agree. Yeah. Absolutely. So thanks, Rev Hoddle. And then two two two small road ducks from bullish clips that says bullish. Is that bullish Bitcoin? I do believe it is. I think he's got some sort of podcast clipping apparati.
[00:03:10] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. That's cool. Thanks, dude. He doesn't sleep, man. Like, I don't he just goes. Yeah. He's a builder, man. It's it's sick to see.
[00:03:19] Permanerd:
Yeah. That's awesome. So, yeah, bullish, if you're listening, and and let us know what exactly bullish clips is. And then another two two two from bullish clips, and this one's from fearless circular economy. It says thanks for shouting out take my sats. Well, you're you're very welcome, and we love to do it. And check out takemysats.com?
[00:03:41] Oshi:
Mhmm. I think so. Dotcom?
[00:03:44] Permanerd:
Yeah. It's safe. For it's a another marketplace that accepts Bitcoin. Is that kinda how you Yeah. It's kinda just like
[00:03:54] Oshi:
a marketplace that's set up for you to set up shop and accept Bitcoin. I mean, you have to have your own Lightning address and things like that, but it's all plug and play kinda thing for if you have a product ready to sell for Bitcoin. It's pretty sick. Definitely recommend it. I've got a few things. I've got one thing there, but, yeah, check it out. Yeah. I've wanted to check it out for a while too, and I'm
[00:04:17] Permanerd:
just I'm strapped at this point for I hear you. For time to do it. Yep. And then we got a four twenty Sats from Undisciplined. I see what you did there. It says, another great episode. Happy to be on the life raft with you. Thank you, Undisciplined. It's have you. It'll be interesting to see you once we enter starvation mode. Who we eat first? And then three twenty two from Rev Hoddle again from Fearless Circular Economy. It says, still don't understand why Stacker News isn't more integrated with Noster. I wish it was. Yeah.
[00:04:57] Oshi:
True. True. I agree. I love Stacker. I'm there every day.
[00:05:01] Permanerd:
I agree. I think everything should be with Noster, integrated with Noster. I have been I have been doing a little bit of writing for this. I don't know if I talked about it. I don't think so. Week or if it was on the episode. But, yeah, I'm just working on writing a bit of a what do you call it if it's more than a paragraph?
[00:05:22] Oshi:
A short narrative, a short story.
[00:05:26] Permanerd:
Yeah. A novella. Something short and sweet. But yeah, just about the when we went mushroom hunting for morels in the burned out forest and then Cool. Did you take pictures? I've got a few pictures. Yeah. And so it's just it's about the the correlations I saw between that ecosystem in the state it was in and permaculture and just how secession works. That's cool. Yeah. You got it in your name. So Yeah. We'll see if it see how long it takes me to get that done. Good things take time. Hey. It's true. It's true. That's why it took us how many years to start this.
[00:06:09] Oshi:
Even to get to episode five. My bad. My bad.
[00:06:17] Permanerd:
The next one is a 112 stats from Alice a. Permanent peer to peer is the way. Additionally, we must maintain platform flexibility. Some Nostril clients are more optimized for your needs. Oshi, what are your daily must dos you follow to help you have a better life? Learning more about how to create value on Nostril is a topic I'm very interested in.
[00:06:42] Oshi:
It's a loaded question.
[00:06:43] Permanerd:
Yeah. I think we're gonna save that and and talk about it in the the beefy part of the show. Okay. Yeah. You good with that? Yeah. That's fine with me. Was there any more boosts? There is there's $9.99 from SoapMiner. Woah. What? SoapMiner, legend. Thank you, dude. Yeah. That's sick. Fantastic. There's no message with that. So Oh, he didn't leave a message. Oh, come on. Message. I'm gonna send his stats back to him. And then, there's a 101 stats again from undisciplined that says, way to talk good, guys.
[00:07:21] Oshi:
Thanks,
[00:07:22] Permanerd:
dude. I'm assuming that's how it sounded like.
[00:07:25] Oshi:
We
[00:07:26] Permanerd:
we talk pretty good, I will say. We talk. I like the way you talk. And I'm not really sure where do we I'll just do a couple more of these because I'm did we do the eight eight eight from Sylvie, which is a a rush appreciation
[00:07:42] Oshi:
boost? No. I don't think so. Well,
[00:07:44] Permanerd:
it is. 888 There it went. From Sylvie. Awesome. Thank you. I'm miss it. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Sylvie. There's a little emoji with with hearts emoji face with hearts around it. So we love you too. Definitely. And one ninety nine from oh, no. This one. I think we did this one. Acneide 37? Yeah. Yes. The weird name. Yep. Yeah. And it just says, love the guitar. I also have fountain issues, so that's good. Not the only one.
[00:08:19] Oshi:
Yeah. Sounds great. I I use it mainly, but it's been working for me personally. I don't know what the issue what issues are you having with it? It's the well, they may have fixed it now. There's been a couple updates, but I couldn't I couldn't log in with Nostr.
[00:08:35] Permanerd:
And it would just go into this loop of, you know, give us all the give us all of the permissions. And and I would do that in Amber, which I'm using for my phone as kind of a insect Yeah. Bunker. And and then it would just say log in with and it just go around in a in a circle and I could log in. I ended up getting, I can't remember what it's, a p k pure or something like that, which is an app that you can can put on your phone and then download previous versions of apps. So I found another one since then that's a little less. The other that one had tons of ads, but it was it's very a very useful app to be able to
[00:09:20] Oshi:
revert back from the current version of of different apps. I think That's cool. Is that just is that just for I mean, is that for any app or is that for just Nostril clients or
[00:09:31] Permanerd:
No. It's I'm not exactly sure if it's every app, but it worked for Fountain, which is still fairly obscure in the overall Android ecosystem. Yeah. And so I figure it probably works with most apps. It must just just keep a database of of the different versions and then allow you to pull Yeah. Down from there. So No. That's pretty cool. That's definitely useful to have. It is because otherwise, it's I don't know how you'd revert to a previous version.
[00:10:03] Oshi:
Mhmm. Yeah. I've been reluctant on updating. I have the iPhone still, so I'm very reluctant on updating past where I'm at right now. Just because it's stable, everything works right now. I'm always reluctant on updating to, you know, the latest and greatest thing if it's working for me. Don't really I don't move.
[00:10:21] Permanerd:
I'm the opposite.
[00:10:23] Oshi:
If there's an update button, I'll push it. I mean I I mean I actually did update my phone today. I mean the latest is what is it '26 or something iOS 26 but I'm on still the eight. There's like two different versions of iOS but right now for the iPhone mini 13 is the one that I have right now but yeah I'm just gonna stop there. It's not important. Yeah.
[00:10:46] Permanerd:
And that's there's some sort of extreme security.
[00:10:49] Oshi:
Right. That's what I mean. Yeah. If there's some sort of security thing, I'll go ahead, but
[00:10:54] Permanerd:
we're good. Cool. I think that wraps up the boost. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. There are some boost. I don't know if if we've read them before, but Jim, you know who you are. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Jim. Then Uncle Jim. And there was another one. I'm pretty sure I got a boost from my friend, Ivor, that we got one coming, but it's not showing up here. And there's been I helped him out setting up a, basically a sub wallet on my Albie Nice. Hub. I got a couple. And so I don't know we kinda went through a little bit of of a road bump, and so I'm not sure why it didn't show up or if it even went through or not. Mhmm. Yeah.
[00:11:39] Oshi:
I got a couple, of those for a couple friends to help manage not manage, but to just get them up and going starting to use their own lightning and stuff like that. It's cool that Alby has that. It is. Are you are you paying for Alby? No. So you're running out cloud? That's just the cloud version that they offer though. Right? The paid one? I'm not sure because I'm I'm paying them just to them money. Yeah. The paid one, I think you're able to customize your LN URL. You're able to, like, change it or something. Okay. Yep. That's in the paid one. But no, I don't. I thought about it. Thought about it. I probably should support it because I do use it, but I use a bunch of other ones. But I'm sure this is probably leading up to one of the questions from Alice.
[00:12:21] Permanerd:
Right. Right. There we also like to be transparent on here. And so we we use podhome.fm for hosting. And so it's kinda fun to go through some of the stats real quick for the episodes that we've done. Let's do it. And all time downloads were at 2,403. For the last three episodes uh-oh. We're in trouble. The last one, Abominable Farewell. Sorry, Chad. Was we're at 666 downloads. Nice. And then and then the one before that fearless circular economy is the first episode where we broke 700. So that one's at 703. Wow. That's awesome. That is awesome. Thank you everybody.
Again, I I mean, I can't really thank people enough. It's Yeah. It's amazing. Pretty wild. Where is the majority coming from? Well, as far as podcast players, we're still at 41% Apple Podcasts and 40% Domus.
[00:13:32] Oshi:
We still have to figure that enigma out. No. We really have not.
[00:13:37] Permanerd:
And then fountain comes in third with the 12.58%. Nice. Which is pretty cool. But, yeah, Domus. No. Somebody we ask these questions, but they just get lost in the ether. How are you doing this? And then 79% Apple iPhone, 9% Android phone, and then 5% Apple computer, and then 2% Apple iPad. So basically
[00:14:02] Oshi:
iPad? Wow.
[00:14:04] Permanerd:
And then there's 1.62 Windows computers. Okay.
[00:14:08] Oshi:
Wow. Interesting.
[00:14:10] Permanerd:
Yeah. And then most are from The United States, and then Canada, United Kingdom, and then Switzerland is is fourth. It's interesting.
[00:14:20] Oshi:
That is. And
[00:14:22] Permanerd:
now at the bottom is it was Latvia, but now with probably one download is Vanuatu. Is that the country? It is a yeah. It's Where is that? I've actually never heard of that. It's down Euro Australia, I believe. Oh, okay. I've wanted to go there. I'm I'm I'm pretty sure that is a country that has no property tax. So that if you actually buy land Uh-huh. Then it's yours. Unlike where we live and, you know, you're you're stuck to this tax slavery forever. Vanuatu.
[00:15:00] Oshi:
Do they speak English there? So Vanuatu,
[00:15:04] Permanerd:
small island country. I I don't know. Yeah. I'm curious. Do you speak English in Vanuatu? I mean, they're listening. Somebody listened to this, so maybe Yeah. Hit us up, Vanuatu. Hit us up. Yeah. That's Need to know. That's kind of the the housekeeping bit, I think. We're still working on the overall structure, if you can call it that, of this show.
[00:15:35] Oshi:
I think we just like the way each other talks, so we just go for it. We just go for it. It's good numbers to run through. I'm always curious to hear it. So
[00:15:45] Permanerd:
Anybody want more of this? Let us know. If you want us to stop, let us know. We're lonely. Send us a message.
[00:15:55] Oshi:
No. We got listeners. We're not too lonely.
[00:16:02] Permanerd:
Alright. Do you want to dive into Alice's restaurant?
[00:16:09] Oshi:
I could. She had a couple questions though. Alice, familiar listener, supporter. She's mega supporter of Oshi and Bitcoin Beans, but she had a couple questions. She was asking about the Lightning wallets that we use or which what I don't know. What is recommended, I suppose? Oh, that's right. You
[00:16:35] Permanerd:
want to start that one?
[00:16:37] Oshi:
Sure. I'm no developer. I'm not too tech savvy but there's a few that I would probably recommend. I mean I I use Alby for, just transactions. It's just kind of easy for my setup. I have a start nine unit that I have connected just running my own node. But there's a bunch of other really cool lightweight lightning wallets. There's Rizful. Rizful is really cool. I think the only limitation for that is that it's desktop only. I'm sure you can access it on your phone but there's no dedicated application thing for it. It's solid though. I really do recommend it. You can do on chain transactions through it too which is really cool.
Alby, Zeus. Zeus is pretty heavy, in terms of features and stuff. If you want the node in the phone kind of thing, Zeus is probably a good choice. I've never really had much luck with using it too often though. There seems to be some sort of issue sometimes when I go to try to connect to my node or I don't know. It's it's great though if you're more of the tech savvy user. There's also eCache you can use within it or Cashew, one of those. I think another one I would probably mention is what is it? I have it here. There's too many though. There's honestly too many wallets now to choose from.
There's Bull. Bull Wallet is pretty solid when I have that, but Blitz. Blitz Wallet is another one that you can connect with Noster Wallet Connect. So that's pretty useful for sending Zaps on Noster. But other than that, there's so many other ones. There's Aqua. Aqua is another one that you can use. I don't know. What what do you use for your daily driver? I'm just curious. I also use AlbyGo,
[00:18:27] Permanerd:
which is connected to my Umbral server, which has my my node and my lightning channels on it. And and then but I also use for cold storage, I use a Sparrow wallet to connect to my cold card. Yep. And then another option, because 75 isn't enough, so number 76 is the wallet of Satoshi, which I had luck with before. I haven't used in a while. But it's also you can send on chain to the wallet and it will convert it to the Lightning Network. Mhmm. So that's handy as well.
[00:19:07] Oshi:
Yeah. Aqua does the same thing. I think Aqua Wallet uses liquid for the swapping. I don't know too much about the technology there but it's pretty handy. Yeah. Don't know any of the there's liquid, e cash,
[00:19:21] Permanerd:
what is it, nuts? Cashew. Cashew.
[00:19:26] Oshi:
Yeah. It's all it's all very confusing stuff if you're just getting into this, for sure. It's all just elements of Bitcoin though. It's all, you know, it's basically Bitcoin at this point. But, you know, for me, I just keep it simple. I don't use eCash or Cashew very much at all. I just use the Lightning Network and, you know, I run a few channels. You run a few channels too. I will say, you mentioned it already, but Spero Spero wallet is I definitely recommend getting to the point where you're using that. I just find it so useful, especially for managing your UTXOs and stuff like that. That's really helpful. I don't think many people, especially just starting out in Bitcoin, have a conception about the UTXO stuff. You know how you just make a bunch of small transactions and then those pile up and then you go to make some sort of transaction in the future and it costs you so much and it's because you have all these individual column like bills in your wallet kind of thing.
And yeah, those kind of amount up. So you can manage your UTXO stuff within Spero which is really handy. Which is just a Consolidation.
[00:20:32] Permanerd:
Yeah. Basically you take a you know those machines at the grocery store, I don't know if they have them anymore, where you take a jar full of change and dump it in and then it gives you like larger bills. Yeah. Dump your change in and it spits out a $20 bill.
[00:20:46] Oshi:
Yeah. Exactly. Yep. Yeah. Lots of lots of layers to this stuff. It is. And it like you said, it can be overwhelming,
[00:20:54] Permanerd:
but Mhmm. It it can also be fairly simple. Yeah. So don't let it don't let it get you down, and we're we're more than happy to help if you reach out and for the whatever limited knowledge that we both have on the subject.
[00:21:11] Oshi:
Yeah. I think it's also helpful though because we actually use it. We're We use it every day, and we've spent at least a few years in this space of finding our way, what works for us, and I think that's important to share, what works for us and hearing that personally from somebody. I know for me personally when I hear that from someone and they're talking and they're set up, always listening trying to gather something that I can just take from them. So hopefully this is useful to some people listening, I don't know. For sure. And it's easy to fall into that category
[00:21:45] Permanerd:
of, you know, this is this is really simple. You know, just just do this and it's and it's really simple. But there are always snafus in there and sometimes it's easy to forget that you had them as well. And now you've got that background knowledge so that it does seem like it's simple, whereas somebody that's new to it and just grabbing a a lightning wallet or Bitcoin in general. And it's just so overwhelming because it seems like most of the information is, you know, white paper level in-depth whereas you just kinda look and just eyes glaze over and drool starts coming outside of the mouth.
[00:22:25] Oshi:
Start foaming out the mouth. Yeah. It's you just gotta keep it simple, one bite at a time. There's not really one good place to start. You just kinda gotta dive in. You just I mean, this is kinda how I started. I just started just owning Bitcoin and I forced myself to learn. I I really think that's what you have to do. You have to force yourself to learn the thing or rather encounter a situation where you're forced to learn it. I remember when I was setting up my node and I had Falou, our friend Falouf on Noster, who runs SweetSats.
He's been a legend in my setting up all this stuff early on. Shout out to Falouf, man. He's he's such he's such a great help in setting this stuff up. He's very tech savvy in this stuff, so it's helpful to have people like that around you. And you can find all these people on Nosser. Just make friends and you know, if you have a question, don't be afraid to ask because if you don't ask, you don't get, you know, so
[00:23:20] Permanerd:
Well, most of the people that are involved in it also have a vested interest in the ecosystem Mhmm. Taking off, you know, this economy taking off and are more than willing to help a newbie come in because that's the only way. What's it called? The the it's like a social media thing where you once you get enough people oh, man. Oh.
[00:23:47] Oshi:
Network network effect? Is that Yeah. Mean, it's a network effect. There is a name though to it. I'll think of it. But yeah. Abominable. Yeah. The abominable effect. Yeah. There's that book by Jeffrey West called Scale. It it all talks about this stuff. Recommended read, by the way.
[00:24:10] Permanerd:
Scale. Okay. Metcalfe's
[00:24:12] Oshi:
Law or something like that. But it just makes sense, know. It's like when you think about cells, blood cells in your body or any cells, know, once a cell leaves the system, it dies. So for as long as a system is thriving, the cells want to stay, they want to contribute. It's so the Internet and whatever else, whatever is contributing and adding value and has solid structure behind it with integrity and, you know, call it truth, like, it's going to work. So you wanna be part of it. You wanna stumble into it and support it because if you support it, you support a better world and everyone else, I don't know, benefits from it. That's just my mind. It may be stupidly simple but I think it's pretty true.
[00:24:56] Permanerd:
I don't know. So what you're saying is be the hemoglobin.
[00:24:59] Oshi:
Be the hemoglobin. Oh my god. That's a sick t shirt. Be the hemoglobin. That's awesome dude.
[00:25:13] Permanerd:
I think that hopefully that answers your your question, Alice. If you need if you need more rambling, let us know and we can definitely continue.
[00:25:24] Oshi:
But she had the other question about daily routine or, know, how to improve your daily life kind of thing. She did. What's your what's your daily routines?
[00:25:35] Permanerd:
Well, it differs, but what I try to do is get up early. I usually I've been in this routine before. I kinda got out of it. I'm trying to get back into it, which is get up at five and then try to do at least twenty minutes of yoga. Nice. And then this one, I've been trying to find time to write as well. Mhmm. And then get a cup of coffee. And I'm hoping to figure out how to meditate. Mhmm. So and then I'm usually the one making breakfast and things like that in the morning. And then basically being a slave to a child for the rest of the day.
He appreciates it. I'm sure. Yeah. And then the other I'll just add The other things that are are very important to me are getting outside as much as possible and making sure to get sunlight when it's out. I think I got a bit too much on my shoulders yesterday, but it felt pretty good. And then also just to touch soil, touch grass Mhmm. Like, just get grounded. I think that there's a lot of people that you know, it sounds like woohoo type of witchcraft that the sun is good and that, you know, grounding yourself to the earth is is beneficial.
But as I get older, I start realizing that all the things that I was taught prior to this has been a lot of hogwash, and maybe there is something to be said about ancient, healing modalities and, you know, it's not all about pharmaceuticals and vitamins and pill form. Supplements. Yeah, exactly.
[00:27:21] Oshi:
Yeah, no I completely agree. Everything is just energy and vibration at the end of the day. But my routine is kinda similar. I usually try to wake up when the sun rises or whenever the birds start chirping. So it's usually around six, as of lately, 6AM, something like that. And then the thing for me that I've been doing for, oh gosh, at least three years now, I do cold showers every morning and sometimes I don't want to do it but for me it's not so much the health thing it's more of the mentality kind of thing. If doing it for this long you start to develop the ability to confront difficult things a lot easier so it's kind of like a conditioning kind of thing for me, and I honestly just enjoy doing it. And then after that, it's usually I do some chi exercises kind of outside in the sun whenever it's coming up in the morning and grounding, do some meditation afterwards. Been doing that pretty consistently, twenty minutes meditation for a better part of like two months, three months consistently now.
And it's really interesting. I found this guy, Tom Campbell. I'm not sure if you've ever heard of this name, but he's a physicist who basically studied consciousness and meditation and kinda mapped it out and very analytic analytical kinda guy, but super spiritual and just fascinating insights on this stuff, and he really got me on it. But I've been doing that consistently, and it's been helpful personally. And, yeah, just get out in the sun. I try to swim when I can if there's a river. If I'm home, I definitely try to swim and just try to be outside as much as I can. That sun just makes you feel so much better versus just being inside all day.
Don't know how these people that have office jobs just, I don't know, eight hours a day inside? It's crazy and you wonder how we have this health issue in our society. It's pretty crazy and the solution to my mind is so simple, I don't know.
[00:29:25] Permanerd:
People just gotta get outside more. Well it's also being inside under those fluorescent lights as Yeah,
[00:29:33] Oshi:
it's so interesting. Again, it's just frequency and energy. Those lights, they're not full spectrum and there's been a lot of science even, what's his name, Jonathan Ott, John Ott in the 60s, 70s did a lot of experiments with isolating particular frequencies of light on plants and seeing how plants react to that. So I mean, if plants react to that, surely we do as well. And these lights, these fluorescent light bulbs or LEDs, whatever, it's isolating just the blue frequency. And that alone literally causes an increase in cortisol levels in you. So you don't even have to eat anything to raise your cortisol. It's just the light alone. So it's just really important to at least be mindful of these things and try to shift your daily life just a little bit.
People can do what they want. But at the end of the day, it's you can't deny this stuff. It really is just energy and if you're gonna argue with energy that it's like arguing it with gravity to my mind. You can deny it all you want but your equations and calculations are gonna be totally not correct. So and that comes with then disease or whatever sickness that people get from their diet or whatever they're doing but people can do what they want. Yes. It's there's a lot of a lot of misinformation.
[00:30:59] Permanerd:
And even when you're going through schooling, you're sitting in the same conditions under those obnoxious fluorescent lights indoors. And and so it it almost becomes normalized. And so it it might not be your fault that you are in terrible conditions and Right. And, you know, your body's breaking down, but it is your problem. Yeah. Like you said, there are ways to fix it. And that actually brought up a couple more things that are in my daily routine. And one of them is as soon as it starts getting in the evening, I put on blue blocking glasses, blue light blocking glasses, which are an orange tint.
And because blue light is not something that happens outside after a certain time of the day. Right? You get it in the middle of the day, basically, and then that spectrum is when and the way I understand it is that as soon as you stop getting that blue light is when your circadian rhythm starts kicking in, you know, like you realize that it's time to to wind down. And so if you're getting that blue light from your computer or watching TV or your phone Right. Then it doesn't allow your sleep cycle to kick in when it's supposed to. Right.
[00:32:17] Oshi:
And so Yeah, that go ahead, sorry. No, was just gonna say it's it's that's so important. Like the the light that comes out of these screens that we hold, you know, with our phone or laptop, that frequency is isolated. It's And that triggers what I mentioned about the cortisol levels. And it tells your body that it's noon when it's literally 9PM. So your body is just totally out of sync. You gotta think about I make the analogy sometimes to friends whenever I'm happen to be talking about this stuff one way or another. Think about like spark plugs or pistons in a car. Everything and think about Bitcoin as well.
It's all about timing. If that timing is off, the firing of the pistons and whatnot, it's not going to function properly. Your body's not going to function properly if you're not getting the right information for your body to do its thing to produce the hormones that it needs to produce because the body is getting the information through your eyes, through your iris, through your retina from the light. And when I learned that stuff, because I've always been interested in health and fasting and just mental stuff and psychedelics and things like that. So when I started to learn about light, it was the last thing that I just didn't consider and being a photographer too. So I found it really fascinating to learn this that the frequency matters so much and what these screens are doing.
If they were full spectrum, which no laptop or computer is, I think the daylight computers or something like that have they don't have the blue light frequency or something. I've never used one but yeah it's really detrimental over time especially now. I'm sure it wasn't a big deal in the 60s or early on but now we have these devices and this knowledge has been understood. I mean you go back to MKUltra stuff and you know DARPA and things like that. These guys knew this technology and they're using it against us for you know for keeping us addicted to these things. It's really what it is. It's all just to control and addict us to I don't know, and to like pull our information and surveillance and it's fucked up. Yeah and it's also to keep us unhealthy too. That too. It's all the same thing, yeah.
You ever listened to Jack Kruse? Yeah. I you know, a lot of people shit on him but I actually quite think he's very intelligent, very smart in a lot of things but yeah. Definitely. So that's somebody I would I would recommend to I mean, if you're if you're talking trash about him, I don't think you've listened to it. I know. This is the thing. Like people like to trash on him because he's over he's not even overweight. He goes into actually sometimes what happened to him? Because he's a neurosurgeon. The guy's a neurosurgeon. And a dentist. Yeah, this guy is very smart. He's not a dumbass. He has a lot of experience and a lot of this research as well what I was saying about DARPA and all these other programs that were doing research on this stuff. He has a lot of ties with the where did he go to school? New Orleans which had a lot of the development stuff going on there. But yeah, Jack Kruse is definitely someone I would definitely just touch upon with his knowledge on light, mitochondria, energy production, things like that. But, yeah, he's he's great. Definitely recommend. Yeah. For sure. It is it's quite amazing.
[00:35:41] Permanerd:
The that is something else that I've been trying to do more. We ended up getting an infrared sauna. Nice. So at night taking a sauna, and it has it has red light therapy lamp in it as well. Mhmm. And so just trying to flip that on, which I don't get to do that often because I'm usually in there with with the kid, and and it's it's pretty it's a pretty obnoxious light. And so he doesn't really like it, But just sitting and and sweating for for a while is also in the routine.
[00:36:14] Oshi:
Yeah. Sweating sweating is so important. Your skin is your third kidney, you know. So it's good to eliminate
[00:36:19] Permanerd:
what you can when you can. And then I I wanted to bring up the it's it's along the lines of what you were saying about, you know, the blue light and how when you have it at the wrong time, it it throws you off and just I've been listening to some things too about about food and eating eating locally, you know, not not eating a a pineapple in the middle of winter in Northern Canada and just eating the food that that grows where you're at at that time of the year as much as possible. And I think that also, you know, we're working on that with producing our own food, but Cool. We still eat bananas and and everything else.
Mhmm. And so I'm I'm interested in learning more about about just the the benefits of food. And then if you're growing it too, I believe that the plants are almost specializing themselves for you. Mhmm. You know, I've heard of people that that pour their own piss onto plants and now it's got it's got part of your your makeup in the plant. And then and I don't know if that that might be a bit far fetched for people to believe, but I think I don't doubt it.
[00:37:36] Oshi:
I don't doubt it. It makes sense. I don't know. I mean, I've never heard that, but I I wouldn't doubt that for a second.
[00:37:46] Permanerd:
And that is peeing on the plants when they're producing, not peeing on them after when you're about to eat them. Yeah. Just to get that out there. Mhmm. Mhmm. Don't piss Yeah. Down when you eat it. Well, mean do what you wanna do but
[00:37:59] Oshi:
Yeah, kids at school are now gonna be doing some experiments where they try to grow an apple tree seed with their urine. It doesn't work like that guys.
[00:38:12] Permanerd:
Although High in nitrogen.
[00:38:14] Oshi:
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, very important stuff. I try to do that, the light stuff, the food stuff. The food thing was a really interesting point. It's very much like a bar code, you know, if you eat locally your body recognizes it and knows what to do with it. If it's something outside of your zone your body's gonna have a hard time metabolically trying to process that. It's not saying that you shouldn't eat it you know. You're just gonna have some sort of metabolic consequence. It's the same thing with like barcode in a store. If you try to bring in something outside of that store and try to scan it, it's not gonna register. It's not gonna be able to read it.
So I think the analogy is pretty similar to that. But I'm not a doctor. Yeah, right. So what the hell do I know? That's the only reason I trust you. I do eat twice a day. Eat breakfast and then I just eat a dinner. I don't really eat like three meals a day kind of thing. Breakfast is pretty important though I would say.
[00:39:12] Permanerd:
Usually eat three meals. We usually well we always eat together at the at the the dining room table and That's important too. Play games. We just got a a game sent to us called Pass the Pig. Pass the Pig? Yeah. So there's just these little rubber pigs and you roll them and depending on how they land, you get a certain amount of points if they're on their feet, whatever. Whatever. But But stuff stuff like like that. That, Uno, Uno, Queen's Queen's Domino, Domino, Splendor,
[00:39:40] Oshi:
like, just we are That's fun. Playing games. Yeah. That's that's more important I think too. It's not just delight and all that stuff, but it's really grounding with, you know, your family, your close ones, your friends. And I think more and more and more people are I don't know. I catch myself sometimes in this. Sometimes I like to watch or listen to something when I'm eating, but doing better with not doing that, trying to just enjoy the meal or with a friend or a family member instead of listening to something on your phone or a podcast or something. It's always distracting away from because when you eat, it's an experience. You should be enjoying that, especially if it's a meal that you make yourself, which is something I do all the time. I never go out to eat, man. Like, I make my stuff all the time. So it's just more grounding in that way. People should probably do that more. Yeah. We do too. I we just bought a side of beef.
[00:40:34] Permanerd:
So he's just been just grinding on unbelievable grass fed, no hormones or antibiotic beef. Sick. It's so nice.
[00:40:43] Oshi:
It was a local that you picked it up? It is. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's cool. There's some beef in our grocery store here that is from the next state over, which is kind of cool. It's not a, you know, it's not like a local butcher per se, but it's beef from, you know, pretty close. So that's that's my go to.
[00:41:03] Permanerd:
Another thing that that I've been trying to do, I don't know if this falls under routine is just I try to be a better person every day. Yeah, man. It doesn't always work. And I've I mean, I I look back and, you know, life is life. And, you know, I've I've I've had a bit of a wild one at times. And I know that I've been a dick to people in the past. Mhmm. Same. So sorry for that if you're listening and I've been a dick to you. Excuse me. But I'm I'm working on, you know, I think that a lot of that is just impatience and Mhmm. And I've been working on being a more person and not letting things get to me Yeah. As much.
[00:41:50] Oshi:
Yeah. I was experiencing a little bit of that yesterday. A thing I'll add to that, I usually do this every single day, it's usually late in the evenings, sometimes when I wake up and when I meditate for sure in the mornings but usually in the evenings I go through a list of things that I'm just grateful for, just simple, they could be even just simple things, some of the things I list is just, I don't know, I mean it's all in the moment kind of thing whenever I'm thinking about them. But just my curiosity for things, ability to just have the artistic abilities that I have, I'm grateful for those and just my family and the sun, how if was out that day, I'm thankful for that, my God. It's better than snow or freaking rain.
So I just go through a list of those things every every evening and I find it helpful. I I find myself a bit more peaceful because that's ultimately what I think people should try to seek is not exactly happiness, it's more of just being peace peaceful because you're gonna have emotions. It's helpful to feel those emotions. They actually can help you grow but ultimately I think being peaceful is the
[00:42:59] Permanerd:
the North Star here. Tell that to the governments of the world.
[00:43:04] Oshi:
Yeah. I know. Yeah. They obscure the hell out of it. Well, that's another detriment to health is is just people
[00:43:12] Permanerd:
that are constantly looking at and reading the mainstream media and and news and just this this constant barrage of of negativity. And, eventually, that also takes a a harrowing effect on your on your body when, you know, there's we're the, like, the only animal, I think, in the world that doesn't get over things quickly. You know, like a a lion, maybe it gets into a fight with a rhino and then it's done. And then, you know, it's back to its resting state or to the, you know, the state of of low adrenaline, whereas we're just getting bombarded with things that almost trigger our our fight or flight Yeah.
Instincts. And so we're constantly in this state of semi aggression or, you know, just nervousness that that is unhealthy where we need to just get to that baseline. But whenever you're whenever you're getting bombarded with such negative news, you can't you can't relax that much. Yeah. And it's not even just the news. I mean, that's that's the the thing that
[00:44:26] Oshi:
seeps in more easily into you from the news is because of the light and the food and everything. You become it's like I don't know. You just become so docile and susceptible to that kind of stuff more easily. So it's interesting to see this circle back and interest in meditation and things like that. I think that's something that we used to do more of. I think we used to just kind of be in that natural state more or less, but now it's just further and further away from it to keep us where we're at, basically just freaking sheep at this point but Yeah, just sitting in a giant circle in Plato's Yeah, yeah exactly.
But I don't know, I think things are turning around, it has to, it's just the natural way, that's the way that nature works, it's just this ebb and flow kind of thing. It's cycles, know, you're gonna go really far out but you're gonna come back to the mean. It has to at some point. It's gonna get so ridiculous where or who knows man, the frickin' asteroid can just come and just be like, alright, you guys had enough time.
[00:45:32] Permanerd:
Well, and I think there's people that are just waiting for that too. You know, there's That too. There's a in Canada here, there's the MAID program, which is medical assisted in dying, I think, or in death, where you stub your toe and like, well, you know what? We've got this solution. Alright. That might be hyperbolic. But the the I've I've talked to some older people and and they're like, well, as soon as it gets to the point where I'm not comfortable anymore, I'm taking that option and and getting out of here. And I just can't it's just so I don't know. It's so odd to me that that there's just this I don't It's the easy button, I guess. Yeah. And Yeah. Again, you do you boo, but it's just not something that I would that I've ever considered, like yeah. There's a place for it. There's a place for it, but not when you push it so hard. Yeah. I agree. I agree. We
[00:46:27] Oshi:
gotta end on a light note here.
[00:46:29] Permanerd:
Absolutely. You, you were telling me earlier that you bought a Yes.
[00:46:34] Oshi:
Yes. Good call. I I had a trip to Charlotte. I had to pick up, actually I had to pick up some cacao for Bitcoin beans, from someone in Charlotte. So that kind of worked out nicely. And while I was there, just walking around downtown for a bit, I thought I'd go into a coffee shop, see if I could see if they take Bitcoin. So I found a shop and they did. They had a Square POS system and I was actually the first one, the guy told me to ask about Bitcoin and actually use it. Let me shout out their name. I have it written here. What was it? Yeah, Wild Roots. Wild Roots Coffee in Charlotte. Check them out.
Definitely, thank you for allowing me to be your first. That's super cool.
[00:47:16] Permanerd:
Nice. Out in the wild. Yep. I've I tried to orange peel a hot dog guy. There's a a local I'll shout them out to Swain Creek Cidery. If you're on Vancouver Island, check them out. I don't I don't drink alcohol anymore, but their apple their sparkling apple juice was amazing. It was fantastic. And so I would imagine that the the cider is probably pretty Oh, I'm sure. Too. But they've they took some freeze dried fruits and are selling them at their cidery. And Oh, cool. They just opened on May 1, so we stopped in to give them some support.
And they're they're having a different food truck every day of the week, I believe. So we ordered some hot dogs from this guy, and then it was taking a while because he had to cook some fresh ones. And and I was talking to him and just like most conversations that I have with Bitcoin came up and he was, I asked him what he was taking for a payment provider, a payment service. And he said square. I said, ah, have you, have you enabled Bitcoin yet? And he was shocked. He had, he said he had Bitcoin many, many years ago, but has got out of it. You know, it's that mentality of it's a commodity to be bought low and sold high, you know, not, not money.
And, but he was interested in, I told him if he, if he, if he got it working, that I would buy another hot dog with Bitcoin. And we couldn't figure out on the square and this is in Canada. So I don't know if if it's not available. You know, we're looking up, and it looked like it was supposed to be available in Canada, but we couldn't find how to enable it on Square. And so it never the transaction came
[00:49:08] Oshi:
through. Yeah. See, that's the thing with Square. They need to make this a lot easier for for everyone involved, the merchant and the person buying. So it it seems to be a common theme through my experience as well. It's not exactly clear how to set it up you know.
[00:49:25] Permanerd:
I know we tried to use chat GPT to walk us through as well and Oh while you were there? Yeah yeah yeah he was keen man.
[00:49:35] Oshi:
That's awesome. But it just For as long as people are are keen and hungry to learn and be open to it. That's that's a that's a win in my book. It was because he's the first person
[00:49:47] Permanerd:
that well, that's that's not true. There was a cannabis shop once back in the day, and I was trying to get them to to do and they were interested, but they couldn't because of their business or something. Oh. The They're the perfect business. Right. And but I think that it's against Canadian regulations or something like that. Something stupid. Uh-huh. Everyone else just
[00:50:12] Oshi:
kinda laughs it off and goes Yeah. The guy at the coffee shop was kind of like scoffing at it for a minute and then he realized oh we actually do and I was like yeah man it's just money like let me use it. You guys get the fiat if you want it because that's the thing they can still get the fiat currency. It's such a cool system. I love how Square has set that up to where they can just convert it for them or they can do what is it? I think $50.50 split. I'm not sure but shout out to Square for doing good things.
Block, Square. I'm not sure which. Yeah. Who knows?
[00:50:49] Permanerd:
I'm starting to keep track of all of that. Oh, and then I just I just before we we sign off, I remember that Alice had asked a question about how we convert between Lightning and On Chain.
[00:51:03] Oshi:
Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. I'll go. I think the way I mostly I'm trying to think of my process as of lately. So whenever I receive payments through my shop, it goes into my Lightning channels. And then when those channels start to get full, what I do is I swap it out on chain to Wasabi and I do some coin joins there before I send it out to my cold storage which is managed with Sparrow Wallet. So that's kind of my on chain swap thing is I swap it out from my Lightning channels via either Thunder Hub or Ride the Lightning or actually or just from my Albi and yeah I just go right to Wasabi for coin joins.
The thing though is that there's just so many different ways. Again, there's what's your process? Well, I was gonna you
[00:51:58] Permanerd:
maybe you could talk about why you use CoinJoin.
[00:52:01] Oshi:
Oh, for coin yeah. It's just something that I I picked up as I was just going along my Bitcoin journey trying to learn, you know, a little bit better about privacy and best practices and things. CoinJoin seem to be an extra step of privacy whether or not it's necessary or not, it's up for debate. I think it may be helpful if that's the name of your game that you're trying to play with it. Cause Bitcoin itself is not exactly private. It's it's pretty public. So I just do coin joins where it's a group of people all pooled together in a transaction and everybody's coins is basically mixed up in the output. So you don't know so it's hard for someone to trace where your coins are going to what address. That's really the basic explanation for it for the reason why I do it.
Yeah. I'm not sure if that's helpful,
[00:52:50] Permanerd:
it's really the only reason why I do it. So it's sort of like a it's like a key party. You throw your keys in the in the fishbowl, and then whoever's key you get. Yeah.
[00:53:00] Oshi:
Yeah. That's one way to think about it.
[00:53:03] Permanerd:
I've used Alby as well, and I was just looking to see what what it's called. I can't remember what what is is it swap or something? What do you mean? Yeah.
[00:53:16] Oshi:
It it's like an atomic swap is what it's called, I believe. And that was
[00:53:21] Permanerd:
that was fine. There's some transactions in transaction fees involved with that. And Yep. It was I think they may have made it easier, but I was having some real problems. I tried to use Ride the Lightning before or or Thunder Hub. Yeah. Yeah. And and just wasn't it wasn't going through. I mean, I have problems. Sometimes I I dig in and try to balance my channels, and I'm not super great at that either. But what I did this last time was I use ShakePay, which is an app up in Canada. And that's how I do my my DCA ing, which is just daily cost averaging. So I buy a small amount of Bitcoin every day through them and they allow one transaction a month on chain for cover the fees.
And so what I did River does the same. Okay. Nice. What I did was I just used because they have, they have implemented lightning now as well. And so I throw stats into that from, from my lightning or from my Albie Hub. And then take that once month a month free transaction and move it to my wallet from from ShakePay because then it's it's on chain and then it just goes into my my cold storage. So that is maybe a bit convoluted and certainly not coin join y, or it's not a washing machine of any sort. Get another another company touching it before before it goes in. But that's just the experimental process of how to do all these things. So
[00:55:03] Oshi:
Yeah. Coin joining isn't necessarily a required thing. But for me, personally, I just find it to, it's just an extra step to help with privacy. But again, it's not required. And it's not even that complicated of a thing. There's many ways to do it. There's the whole what is the Samurai? The Samurai guys that are going through this whole thing. I'm not sure if you're keeping up with the their case at all, the Samurai wallet thing. I do listen to the Bitcoin and podcast,
[00:55:33] Permanerd:
so that's where I get most of the Oh, okay. Yeah. News.
[00:55:36] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. So that was, another coin join y kind of thing too, but it's pretty unfortunate that those guys are going through what they're going through. But it's ultimately just code and they yeah. That's a whole other topic. Yeah. It's just control mechanisms again. Yeah. Before we end, I thought about a name for bringing on, like, the merchants. Yes. Kind of like the, what about we can change the name obviously, but call it the market square. I like it. Yeah. And I thought about who for this one. Shout out to, Satoshi Coffee just because I was talking with him today, but I I do use his coffee for my, coffee huddle butter. It's pretty awesome, I will say. It's my favorite variant of the huddle butter. But, yeah, Satoshi coffee. Great great grounds.
[00:56:27] Permanerd:
Nice. I'm yet to have tried it. If you want to send some, I'm happy to receive it up here in Canada.
[00:56:36] Oshi:
Yeah. We gotta do a trade. We gotta do, like, a a butter and dried fruits trade. Nice. Do you do you know why
[00:56:43] Permanerd:
you know that Canada's actually spelled C N D? C N D? Yeah. So then but What do you mean? But then when it's spelled up here, it's C A N A N A.
[00:56:58] Oshi:
Is that true? Yeah. It's true.
[00:57:01] Permanerd:
But and we'll give a shout out to Alice too. You you were mentioning
[00:57:07] Oshi:
there are some seasonings or something? Oh, yeah. Thanks for reminding me. Yeah. No. She sent me this chai spice cacao mix, which she uses, bitcoin beans, cacao, and grinds up a bunch of other stuff here. I have it here because I I did want to mention it. I would take some of that as well. Not, know, not Yeah. It's it's really, really good. Yeah. Shout out, Alice. This this stuff is awesome. The ingredients in this is cacao, coconut sugar, cinnamon, ginger, cardamom, nutmeg, chaga powder, sea salt, vanilla bean powder, cloves.
Smells amazing. I wish you could smell it through the microphone. Here. Open it.
[00:57:48] Permanerd:
Oh, yeah. Smell it. Smell it. Take a whiff. Yeah. That smells amazing.
[00:57:52] Oshi:
Yeah. It smells so good. I just love smelling it. It's bit But, yeah, I've been I've been Smells like all holidays mixed into one. Yeah, does smell like a holiday in a can. It's awesome. Been making pretty much every day with it, just like a tablespoon mixed with some milk or usually just milk. I find that boiling a little bit of water first and dissolving it in that first and then adding the milk seems to help. So it's
[00:58:20] Permanerd:
really good. Sweet. Yeah. Oh, north of the border. I'm feeling a bit left out here. Cool, man. Well, I think that I was recording, and I would imagine you were recording, so we might get this out in the next couple of days. This is gonna be a rough weekend. We've got baseball all day tomorrow. And then on Sunday, we start a new new baseball league. So we're traveling an hour and a half for a doubleheader An hour. In Campbell River, British Columbia.
[00:58:53] Oshi:
Wow. That's a long drive for a baseball game. Well, after You guys better win. Yeah.
[00:58:58] Permanerd:
Well, this is, this is distilled. Right now, our Oceanside baseball has four different teams. And so this is almost a distilled version of the four teams. So I I think that I mean, we've got some some pretty stellar players on this team. So but Yeah. That's my limited knowledge of you nine baseball. We seem to be good players.
[00:59:22] Oshi:
I actually went to another baseball game over here close to my house. Just a high school team, but it's always nice to just I love watching baseball. Baseball baseball is awesome, man.
[00:59:33] Permanerd:
It is. It's one of those sports that is much better in person than on TV, I think. Definitely. I'm a little bit biased towards hockey, but love me some baseball. So one of the coaches at the at baseball the other day was we were talking. He's like, god, man, the Canucks, they didn't get the first round pick. You see that? You know? Or they didn't get the first overall pick. I have no idea about hockey. Got it. But I'm I'm upset with you. Like, this is this is ruining my day.
[01:00:07] Oshi:
Yeah. I've kinda dropped out keeping up with sports and getting the whole, my team won, my team lost kinda thing. Like, shut up. You didn't play. Yeah. Exactly. It's not your team. Oh,
[01:00:18] Permanerd:
I've got another thing here real quick. This is gonna be like the the longest one more thing in the history Let's go. Between us. My kid has started being interested in Pokemon. Hell, yeah. And and so we've been going to like, we we went through baseball cards for a while, but there's nowhere to buy them around here that we found. And so now there's a a local collectibles shop, it's called. And so he's got all these bulk Pokemon. I don't know. In baseball card collecting back in the day, we call them commons.
And so we've been buying stacks of those for $5 from him and then telling him that we'll bring back in doubles and and trying to work that that way. So that that's actually been quite fun. We're both trying to build a a set. That's awesome. And and then at night before bed, we sit there and kinda bat like this. Sometimes we'll look up the value of a card and one will be 35¢ and one will be 25¢. Whoever's is 35¢ gets those two cards. Just finding finding games to to play.
[01:01:28] Oshi:
I'll tell you another collection that I kinda go deep on are marbles, vintage marbles. Jabbo, to be specific. Jabbo. Yeah. Yeah. Jabbo's marbles, like, from the nineties. That's artwork. Yeah. They really are. They're really sick. They're not like your cat's eyes or, you know, generic looking marbles. Like, they're really nice. Especially if you learn the the process into how they're made and stuff with, like, melting the glass, and it's very particular techniques in the machine. It's so cool. I love I love a good looking marble. Just get lost in it when you're looking at it. I
[01:02:07] Permanerd:
like marbling in beef. Does that count?
[01:02:10] Oshi:
Definitely. Love me a good marbled steak and stuff like that.
[01:02:17] Permanerd:
Well, I wanna throw an offer out there for people if if you've got Pokemon cards and you wanna I'm I'm not looking for $100,000 cards or just just I don't even know what I'm looking for. But get You don't want a holographic Vaporeon?
[01:02:36] Oshi:
Yeah. Sure. I do. But A Japanese holographic Vaporeon?
[01:02:40] Permanerd:
Send it send it here. Another one I've heard is a is a Had it. Crit no. What is it called? The Charizard
[01:02:47] Oshi:
or something. Hell yeah. Charizard.
[01:02:50] Permanerd:
But Charmillion. If you're looking to get get rid of part of your collection or something that is going to be fairly cheap, we're looking for more Pokemon cards. I'll be Make a post on Noster. I'll be trading I'll trade for for for Bitcoin.
[01:03:09] Oshi:
I wonder if anyone's made like some big sells of Pokemon through with Bitcoin. You would think so. I mean, it's I'm not looking for a big sale, but it'll be a sale.
[01:03:21] Permanerd:
It would be. And we do have Be a cool sale. We do have a email address, which is say hi, sayhi@urthealgo.com. So that is still it's collecting dust. There's been nothing sent to it. Don't make me regret buying that URL please and and send us a email. Send it. Send it. Alright. Oshi, where could people find you? What do you wanna what do you want them to know?
[01:03:52] Oshi:
Oh, a couple of things. I got invited to make a music playlist the other day. You may have seen the account, Bard Sounds Project on Nostr. Seems pretty cool. He reached out. Mike, I think his name was. He asked if I wanted to make a track list, 10 songs or something. So that'll be coming out soon. Probably in the next few days. So that'll be cool to share some music. Store stuff, I actually just got a fresh batch of huddle butter. Creamy and crunchy. It's in the shop. Oh, and the the jam, huddle jam. That's in there too.
What else? Promo code Yata, y a t a, at checkout for a few sets off and what else? I think that's I think that's it. That's it for me. Oh,
[01:04:43] Permanerd:
website only, oshigood dot us and Noster only. That's where you can find me. I always keep forgetting that. So we'll use the the email as a bridge to Noster. So if you don't know what Noster is or you have want more information on it, send us an email and we'll get you sorted out to get on the Noster and then we communicate real people and not Neanderthals. Hey.
[01:05:11] Oshi:
What's new on your end? What's in the shop? Oh, everything's in the shop.
[01:05:15] Permanerd:
I haven't got order for a while. I've been pretty lax as far as posting or anything on Nostrad. I did have that sale to the the cidery, which was nice. If you want to order some freeze dried fruit or some comfrey salve, it's sats,thenumber4snacks.com. And I will look for your order. If not order from Oshi or from Satoshi Coffee or from Alice or from SoapMiner or anyone else that is in this circular economy of of Bitcoin that we are involved in and trying to promote as much as possible because sound money buys sound products. And I will be out in my yard planting.
This morning, I was planting some trying to to add plants to different guilds that I have. So I was in the hibiscus guild planting some some strawberries and ground cherries and Nice. A tomato plant just to see what happens and marigolds. So, yeah, use your life like a permaculture guild and make it as diverse as possible, and you'll become sustainable and resilient. Mhmm.
[01:06:40] Oshi:
Wise words from a wise man. Alright.
[01:06:44] Permanerd:
You're gonna play us out?
[01:06:46] Oshi:
Yeah. I'll play a little thing. Alright, brother. Alright.
[01:07:22] Permanerd:
Yada.
Cold open riff and welcome back to Yada Pod
Episode 5b, tech hiccups, and value-for-value setup
Reading boosts: sats, shout-outs, and bullish clips
Fountain app woes, APK rollbacks, and update philosophies
Transparency: hosting on Podhome and listener stats puzzle
Listener Q&A intro: Alices questions for the beefy part
Lightning wallets we use: Alby, Zeus, Riseful, Blitz, Aqua, Sparrow
Keeping Bitcoin simple: UTXOs, consolidation, and learning by doing
Network effects, Metcalfes Law, and be the hemoglobin
Daily routines: yoga, writing, cold showers, sun, and grounding
Light, circadian rhythm, and blue-light blockers
Media, health, and the tech-control rant
Infrared sauna, red light, and eating local/seasonal
Food, family dinners, and games at the table
News overload, stress response, and seeking peace
MAID debates and finding a lighter note
Bitcoin in the wild: coffee in Charlotte and Square POS
Trying to orange-pill a hot dog stand on Vancouver Island
Swapping Lightning to on-chain: Wasabi, Sparrow, and ShakePay
Samourai case mention and Market Square merchant shout-outs
Spices from Alice, cacao blends, and cozy beverages
Weekend plans: youth baseball and Canucks chatter
Pokemon quests, marble art, and trading for sats
Listener call-outs, email bridge, and where to find us
Permaculture guilds, circular economy, and guitar outro
