Oshi and I got back in the saddle after a missed week and caught up on everything from a chaotic kids’ baseball tournament to Oshi gearing up for a farmer’s market run with Bitcoin signage, permits, menus, and all the little frictions that come with trying to do honest local commerce. We also ran through listener boosts and feedback, reflected on value-for-value, and then pivoted into a wider conversation about building tools that are actually useful in real life instead of just talking about them. That led us into Kimi K3, Moonshot AI, using Roo Code inside VS Code with PPQ.ai, and why open-source or at least more open AI workflows feel a lot more interesting than the shiny corporate black boxes.
From there we went full freedom-tech-and-dirt mode: BIOS headaches, Windows misery, Linux evangelism, and why older ThinkPads plus Linux Mint still feel like a sane path for people who want more control over their machines. We also answered Bitcoin Beans’ question on maximizing biodiversity in garden beds, talked through practical permaculture ideas like feeding the soil, keeping it covered, planting in layers, and leaving room for wild habitat, then rolled into the next permaculture principle: using and valuing renewable resources. That tied neatly back into Oshi’s jar-return idea, circular local business, and the broader theme of creating systems that are resilient, regenerative, and less dependent on outside inputs.
- YATA Podcast: https://www.oshigood.us/podcast
- Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/
- Boost Me Bitch (Podcasting 2.0 app listing): https://podcasting2.org/apps
- Podcasting 2.0: https://podcasting2.org/
- Nostr: https://nostr.com/
- GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/
- Take My Sats: https://www.takemysats.com/
- Oshi: https://www.oshigood.us/
- Oshi Batch Price Tool: https://www.oshigood.us/tools/batch-price
- Kimi: https://www.kimi.com/help/getting-started/overview
- Moonshot AI: https://www.moonshot.cn/
- PayPerQ (PPQ.ai): https://ppq.ai/
- Roo Code: https://github.com/RooCodeInc/Roo-Code
- Visual Studio Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
- Linux Mint: https://www.linuxmint.com/
- Ubuntu: https://ubuntu.com/download
- Bitcoin Beans: https://www.bitcoinbeans.co/
- No Agenda Show: https://www.noagendashow.net/about
- John C. Dvorak News Blog: https://www.dvorak.org/blog/
- Rush: https://www.rush.com/
- KetoLish: https://ketolish.us/
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Send an email: sayhi@youarethealgo.com
[00:00:22] Permanerd:
Hello, and welcome to the Yada podcast where you are the algorithm. I am Permanerd, and I am joined with the dulcet tones of my good friend, Oshi.
[00:00:32] Oshi:
How are you doing, Oshi? I'm doing well. It's good to talk to you again. It's been, what? A week of absence that we had? A week of abstinence
[00:00:40] Permanerd:
or a year of Abstinence. Oh, what what did you say? Abominable. Yes. Last week, which I don't even think we we mentioned anywhere that so if if you guys were thinking that we were gone, if we pod faded after a week, I had an out of town baseball tournament for the kid, and we hooked up the the trailer and took it down and did some camping in a usually, when we go camping, it's out in the middle of nowhere. This was more like 200 campsites and a putt putt golf course and a pool and a little store. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. It worked out it worked out pretty well.
And then the ended up taking third in the tournament out of 16 teams, which Cool. We should have been probably in in the top two. But the semi final game, we played the team that ended up winning. And we played our our worst game by far of the season. And I was talking to their coach, and he said that they played that that was the best game that they'd played all year. And Of course. There was there was kid umpires. Like, the kid was, I mean, he couldn't have been more than 12. What? And yes. And then there was some some pretty questionable calls, which can be expected. But then, apparently, some of the grandparents of our players started mouthing off in the in the stands.
And it turned Is there drinking involved? No, man. There's no alcohol there. It's just well, I don't know. Maybe they had a flask or something. I wasn't I wasn't near enough to hear what was going on. But Just some mad Canadians, man. That's right. Getting riled up over baseball. They tell you that they're nice, but nah. Well, it is. I mean, it's it's u nine, but people are living reliving their childhood or trying to capture the championship they never had. And I mean, I get it. You know, there's when you see a bad call and you think that you have a chance, but, I mean, we ended up getting slaughtered.
So a couple calls from the ounce wasn't you know, it did change the momentum a bit, but Mhmm. You can't blame that. But in in the end, our head coach ended up getting suspended for the next game because of the the actions of the the crowd. So it was a Holy cow. We're still we're still dealing with the the fallout from from all of it. So it's yeah. That's Well, it sounded like a a very eventful trip. It did, man. It was yeah. It was crazy. But yeah. How about you over the last two weeks?
[00:03:21] Oshi:
I've been low key kind of getting ready to do the farmer's market here. I haven't really spoke about it much. But, yeah, just kinda prepping for that, trying to figure out table set up and getting all the right paperwork needed, stupid little permits and things for the for the market and such. But, yeah, it's kind of what I've been grinding out on. I just went and picked up some cheap little frames for the menu kind of thing for the just like the two butters that I have. So, yeah, made a little Bitcoin accepted here sign, which is really fun because I can guarantee you no one there is accepting Bitcoin or even knows that they could rather if they're on square or whatever. But, yeah, that's what I've been grinding out quietly.
[00:04:09] Permanerd:
Nice. So you haven't even you weren't even close to getting into a fist fight. Crazy.
[00:04:13] Oshi:
No. No. No. Not yet. Maybe at the market. Yeah. Right.
[00:04:17] Permanerd:
You accept Ethereum? Why you? Yeah. What? No. Get out of my Solana? No. Leave my stall now. Cool.
[00:04:29] Oshi:
That's exciting. Should we yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's been fun, but let's let's run the numbers. I'm kind of curious how we did on the last episode.
[00:04:37] Permanerd:
Oh, okay. Yeah. I guess we'll get into it. This is a value for value podcast, which means if we show up, which we are here, obviously, that we record the show, put it out, and it's not behind any paywalls. We don't have advertising per se. And if you find any value in it, then you can give it back in any way you can, whether that's an Oscar note, an email at sayhi@youarethealgo.com. Or what we prefer the most and is easiest to keep track of is if you send a boost via any podcasting two point o enabled podcast that, allows for sending small amounts of Bitcoin.
And along with those are boosted grams, and we'll read those now from since the last time we recorded. And the first one is 210 sats from Alice a, our new best friend. Yep. And this is sent from boostmebitch.com. And it says testing from boost me bitch fountain issue. And I agree, Alice. I also have fountain issues. I cannot still log in to fountain via Noster on my Graphene OS, which has been now for a month or so. And it is a pain in the butt because it is the easiest way I find to to be able to boost podcasts.
And then there are the next one is three thirty three from our other friend, Jim Seaford. Nice. And it is these are from episode 14, Microwave Me. So this is episode 15 that you are listening to now. And it says, observe and interact part of permaculture is something I've always done but didn't know. I think most are reactionary. We see a problem and try to fix it. But now I slow down, watch, and wait, and really see what's happening before any any interaction.
[00:06:47] Oshi:
Hashtag s m I j. Hashtag zapped. Hashtag grow nostril. Yeah. Yeah. It falls into that same principle of Chesterton's fence that we were talking about a couple episodes ago I think. And Chesterton's
[00:07:00] Permanerd:
fence
[00:07:02] Oshi:
is Oh, just basically just the principle of not removing the thing first upon, you know, seeing the issue but rather considering why it's there in the first place before removing it. Yeah. What it Yeah. Actually kind of Does. Yeah. It might have an actual purpose, guys. So just leave it as it is and go from there. Maybe we shouldn't strip mine that entire mountain of trees. Maybe they have a purpose. Yep.
[00:07:29] Permanerd:
And we got another 199 sats from Alice a again. And it says first boost from boost me bitch since my fountain boost went into the So did you lose the the actual sats from that or did it just not go through? That is the question. You have to send us another boost in order to answer that question. And then a 111 from bullish clips. And it says, don't recall sending any eggplant emojis, so not sure where that came from, l o l. Yep. And so I think that was before I think last episode, he had a 1,111 sats. And and then there's there's four eggplants. This one is a 111 sats and there's three eggplants. I think that that is something that that helipad, which is what I use to track the boost, And I think it automatically puts them in because the the next one is 420 stats from undisciplined, and it puts like a peace sign alien and then smoke emojis after that. So I think that there are just a few a few different donations that automatically generate these things. That's funny.
And on Disciplined's message says, dear resistant dear dear resist dear is a PR scam pushed by pig nursery. I agree. True. I agree. They get they buy these thing. Oh, this flower, beautiful flower, deer resistant, and then it's just like candy to them and they just just grub it. Yep. We had, our our garden gate got left open a couple times and just annihilation over the last couple weeks. Brutal. Damn. And then another four four four from Alice. And this is from Fountain though. So that one did work. And it says bit axe solo minor hit on Block 711.
Good numbers. Yeah. So we're talking about before somebody had asked, I think of whether we solo mined or mined in a pool. I think this was what was in reference to that. But, I mean, that would be fantastic. Like, you just do do do do do and then you get a message. Oh, you've received 3.25 Bitcoin.
[00:09:58] Oshi:
Yeah. You don't have to work now. That's right.
[00:10:03] Permanerd:
As much. Yeah. Right. Right. And then we got a 100 sats from Ivor Tola. That's what that is. 100 sats from Ivor Tola. It says more interesting than Josh's stamp collection. So I I mean Wait. You have a stamp collection? Yeah. Apparently, I do. And he doesn't know how good it is. Ivor, you've never seen my stamp collection. It's mostly food stamps, but, you know, what are you gonna do? Then we got a thousand sats from Meyer BTC, also on. And it said love getting a shout out in the intro. Appreciate both you guys. Hell yeah, Mayor. What's up, Mayor? Well, we appreciate you Definitely. As well.
As we do with our good friend, Palmyra, with 5,555 sats, which may may be a record. And this one says hashtag Yada. And the problem is the solution. Permanenters comfrey salve salve is luxurious and healing. Short read documenting my journey to health. Thank you for the SATS Pit shout out. And then it's h t t p s. Take my sats.com forward slash sats bit. And then but I don't understand because it says short read documenting my journey to health, but there's no link or anything. So I'm not really sure how that works.
Let us know. Yes. But I did create a a meme as well for for Pam and their sad pit because I've been using it if I ever use deodorant, which is only when I go to the big smoke. Mhmm. But it was the Dosakis guy, and it just says that I don't always use deodorant. But when I do, I use Sats Pit. Yeah. There's a little jar of it.
[00:12:08] Oshi:
Yeah. It's good stuff. I I love using it. And much like you, I don't really use deodorant very much, but every now and then if I'm going out somewhere, I definitely use it now. It smells really good. And I think that was the end for the new ones, but the next one I'm gonna read anyway because it is timeless. And it says, speaking of having to hashtag YADA, remember, you can support the show by
[00:12:30] Permanerd:
re by using referral code YADA when signing up for Take My Sats. Create a store and start selling stuff for Sats the easy way. Httpcolon//www.takemy Sats. Now Check it. Oh. Oh. No. No. You. So that was all the boost, but there have been some some new streams as well. Let's go. So we've been we've got a few boost or streams from from Jim Seifert had figured out the stream button. Good job, Jim. And then Meijer BTC as well. And then I think that is all the new ones. So, yeah, using Fountain, you can also stream per minute, I think. However,
[00:13:23] Oshi:
per fifteen seconds. It's a cool feature.
[00:13:25] Permanerd:
It is a cool feature. So, yeah, that was all the the feedback we got through boosts and streaming. So thank you all. Now move on to the analytics because we are high-tech. And Let's hit it. Let's see. So we've got a total of 9,291 all time downloads. So let's crank it up. Let's get to 10,005 digits because then we'll feel special. So for the the last episode, number 14, Microwave Me, we've had 480 downloads and then followed by five hundred and twenty three and six zero nine. So apparently, Microwave Me is not doing as well as the rest.
[00:14:24] Oshi:
Oh, I don't know. I I feel like all the other ones have gotten the same amount, but, yeah, you're probably right.
[00:14:30] Permanerd:
And, I mean, Microwave Me sounds like something from the Gremlins. Do you remember that that movie? I've watched some of it. Yeah. Yeah. They go through some pretty interesting ways of destroying the Gremlins, and I'm pretty sure one of them wasn't a micro Yeah. Apple Podcast and Domus are still the two dominant players. And iPhone is destroying everything else followed by Android with a very small percentage. The best episode or the most downloads have been number four, Abominable Farewell. And looking at the download numbers from the last episode, I wonder if that's because people are hoping we're going away. Like, oh listen to that one, these guys are getting out of here.
[00:15:21] Oshi:
We can just rename the rest of the other ones that way. Yeah. Yeah. Fine. We're leaving. The final battle. The last call. The Just make it a meme that way. Oh,
[00:15:35] Permanerd:
let's see here. It looks like we've gotten some oh my gosh. There's a whole list of new oh my. Of new countries at the at the bottom of this list with one download. Did we hit China? Well, let's see. China. 29 downloads from China. China. China. Let's see. At the the bottom here, new ones are Kazakhstan and Guyana. And I thought I saw some more of the Cyprus, Palestine. Hit us up from Palestine. What is happening Yeah. Over there? Wow. Slovenia, Ecuador, Pakistan, Cameroon, Algeria, Africa. Give us some love in Africa too.
Send us a message. Wow. I mean, we are we are global. That's cool. Can't wait to sign with a major label. Yeah. A Warner Brothers or something? Yeah. Be sick. That's probably next.
[00:16:45] Oshi:
Yeah. It's coming, man. It's coming. We just, you know, keep the keep the titles as if we're just leaving. Yeah. Right.
[00:16:54] Permanerd:
You gotta get them somehow. I mean, you never know. We might be gone next week. This is a this might be the last one. Speaking of which, a shout out and a RIP to John C. Dvorak, who is one of the my favorite people to listen to and cohost of the No Agenda show. And he apparently passed away on Monday sort of unexpectedly. And, yeah, that's a a major loss to podcasting and the world in general. And on that downer That's a bummer. Yeah. It was a bummer. I just heard about it yesterday, and it was I don't really I don't usually feel sad for people that I've never met, but, like, it it actually it actually hit me emotionally, man.
[00:17:50] Oshi:
Yeah, man. I know I know the feeling for sure. Yeah. I'm a big fan of Rush. And when I heard that Neil when Neil passed away, that that hit me pretty hard. So
[00:18:00] Permanerd:
hug the people that you love and tell them that you love them. Alright. That's enough of the sappiness. The the last part of our our Roundup is and don't use Roundup. Glyphosate's bad. Is the Lycum jar.
[00:18:18] Oshi:
Oh, true.
[00:18:20] Permanerd:
Forgot about it. This one is is is pretty interesting. There's I think something must be amiss here because for episode 14, it says that you only had 1,961 words. And that's down I mean, that's half of what you normally spew out of your pie hole. So Yeah. I do speak a little bit more than that. Yes. I don't know. I don't know. And then and so it says you have 10 fillers, which is a point five one percentage, and that's nine ums and one like. I
[00:18:53] Oshi:
don't know. I feel like there was at least three likes in there. Yeah.
[00:18:56] Permanerd:
And then it says I have 6,154, which is about no Sounds yeah. That's about normal. But then it says zero fillers.
[00:19:07] Oshi:
BS.
[00:19:08] Permanerd:
Yeah. I would I would imagine we threw in some yeah. I'll I'll have to I'm not gonna do it, but go for have to ask throw it into Kimmy k three real quick. Let it fix it up. Oh, well, there let's talk about that in a second, but we'll wrap this up. That's the end of the value for value section. Thank you everybody for all of the feedback and and just listening in general. And another way you can share it is if you think someone else would like the nonsense that we spew, go ahead and share the show with them.
We'll be rolling first. Tell me about Kimmy. Kimmy?
[00:19:57] Oshi:
She's kinda cute. No. The the new model from who is the main I can't remember the name of the company. But, yeah, the new model Kimi K3 came out I don't know was it a week ago, two weeks ago? I don't remember but been hearing good things about it so I gave it a whirl on a few things and yeah it works really great. It's cheaper than the what was it, Claude Opus 4.8 or something. It's like half the price of it and it works really well. And it's open source which is really interesting considering the fact that all these other models, frontier model models like, oh there's a like that'll count.
One. Yep one. But yeah it's just it's so much cheaper than these other Claude models, ChatGPT models and it works just as well. A lot of these AI IPO things that have been the whole rage lately, think a big bubble, big bubble coming for that, I think. We'll see. Yeah. It's sort of the com to the dot a. Mhmm.
[00:21:09] Permanerd:
Yeah. It seems like there's a lot of bubbles that are about Yeah.
[00:21:12] Oshi:
I feel it. I definitely feel it. And I'm just glad to see that these models are open source but you know, they're coming from China. So I don't I don't know what to trust. I don't know what to think exactly. But cheaper prices for good AI models? I mean sign me up. Definitely.
[00:21:29] Permanerd:
Looks like it's from Moonshot AI. Moonshot. Thank you. Yeah. Yep. But yeah. It's let's see what they I mean, they've got the it says they've got the code here. Oh, boy. Hang around. Yeah.
[00:21:41] Oshi:
I've been messing around with it within so I use Versus Code and then I have RU, a little plug in. Actually you gave me that tip Mhmm. To use RU in there, which has been great. Thank you. And p p q dot a I for accessing a bunch of different models. So I've been just using that connecting with Kimi K3 and building some stuff. Yeah it's been great. It's been great for planning mode, like architectural mode before you start building stuff. I find that really important to do. Built this batch price tool actually on the Oshi website. If you go to the oshigood.us website and you go up to the tools thing, you'll see batch price and I built this with it. And I kind of built this for myself just for helping calculate profit margin and pricing for the things I make, the butter I make because I make different things every now and then.
This is pretty helpful. So definitely go in and check it out. You can go in and put your ingredients, your batch, your expected yield, put in additional costs like your packaging and even consider your labor, your time, which is really helpful.
[00:22:54] Permanerd:
I don't know why you need to make a profit. You should just you know
[00:22:59] Oshi:
Like are you are you trying to eat or something? Yeah. Do you have rent? It's not very open source. Dude, you're a criminal. Do you do you support C Sam?
[00:23:12] Permanerd:
But one thing you did mention, which when you first told me, we talked about about Kimmy a little bit before we started recording. And that was the first thing I did was go to ppq.ai and see if it was if it was one of the models that they support. So they do. And if you don't know what ppq.ai is, it's just a aggregate model AI where you can use just about anything it looks like
[00:23:43] Oshi:
and Mhmm. Pay with Bitcoin. Or Monero or I think even Tether as well. Oh, yeah. You can also use credit card. But, yeah, I've mostly just used my Sats for credits, tokens. I've also used Monero because some people have actually paid me a Monero for some products. I think I built half of the Oshi website with Monero.
[00:24:05] Permanerd:
Fun fact. Nice. Got rid of it. Yeah.
[00:24:08] Oshi:
Yeah. Just used it up. Actually built something with it. So you know, it's money. Mean if it works. Works up with it.
[00:24:14] Permanerd:
Yeah. But then yeah that that workflow with the Roux connected to Versus Code running PPQ and whatever model you want is is golden. So if you think you can't find it, you can.
[00:24:28] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. The thing for me that takes a while is kind of sitting and writing things down as to what I need help with or just kind of problems that I have that I could then build something instead of just, know, I don't know, dicking around building stupid little things. I like to actually build tools for myself even if it's simple but I find this, I mean this latest thing on the Oshi website, the little batch price tool.
[00:24:54] Permanerd:
I find it pretty helpful. That's great. And that's exactly what Mhmm. If you can't find something build it. Yep. I've also is now. Spent some time over the last couple of weeks. I'm still I've I've got this new computer, a few months old now, but I'm still struggling with connecting to WiFi after it goes to sleep and just some other little problems that arise that are annoyances more than anything and time consuming. And so I decided that I was a few BIOS updates behind. And so for anybody who doesn't know, the BIOS is just sort of the underlying operating system of the computer.
It gets in the it's hard it's baked into the into the actual hardware so that it doesn't matter if you have a hard drive in it. You can still boot to the BIOS and and there's configure some options for your computer and whatnot. And so I was hoping that that that would help because it is a new Wi Fi card and and GPU and things. So I was hoping that a BIOS update would would help. And since I run Linux on it, I took out the hard drive as soon as it came in. It's an m two something something something hard drive. And I instantly took it out because I had Windows on and put a new one in and installed Linux.
And there's no way on this computer to update the BIOS unless you go through Windows. Unreal. Usually, you can get a a downloadable tool that will boot from a USB stick, and then you can just boot to it and update the BIOS. Nope. Not on this model. So then I had to take it apart. And there's two slots for hard drives, so I just put the Windows one back into the other slot and booted from that. And what a just a nightmare. It's so it's so disheartening to go through the setup process. And and so it it ended up booting the computer three or four times before it even let me get to a to set it up.
And then one of the first questions is, you know, connect to Wi Fi. And so stupidly, did just thinking that I was going to need to anyway. But then it goes through and it does the updates or something. And then it says, okay. Log in to your account or create a new one. I'm like, I'm not I I don't want to log in with Microsoft. Right? You know, I'm you're forcing me to use this to begin with. Just let me create a local account. But once you set up Wi Fi, it won't let you do just a local account. And so I found that you have to push shift f 10 to go into PowerShell, and then there's a command to boot to a local only account, and then you have to reboot and then set up that account.
And it's just I I it it hurts my my soul Yeah. Dealing with Yeah. It hurts me just thinking about it. Yeah. And it just it hurts everything just with the dealing with Windows or, like, stock Android or I'm sure it's the same with Mac OS or iPhone and just, like, I want these things I want them connected to each other where I want them connected. I don't want to have one ring to control them all. Yeah. I mean, how else are they gonna harvest your info? Yeah. It does. You know what? It almost feels like harvesting organs. It's so painful for me to go through.
[00:28:30] Oshi:
Yeah. I hear you, man.
[00:28:33] Permanerd:
So I've I've had my last three computers have been Lenovos, and it's it's just so disheartening to to realize that I've had to go through the actual operating or Windows.
[00:28:45] Oshi:
Mhmm. Yeah. I've been thinking about picking up one, one of those ThinkPads just for just for learning on because I I've never really messed around with Lennox personally. So I feel like I need to mess around with it. Well, if anybody
[00:28:59] Permanerd:
I mean, I'm I'm here to help you obviously, but I would also if anybody if anybody wants to go through rehab, the first problem or the first thing you have to do is admit that you have a problem, whether that is Windows or Mac OS. And, I'll be your sponsor. I'll I'll help you through it. I'll take it. Yeah. Definitely.
[00:29:23] Oshi:
Yep. I've got it on my tab here on my computer because it's just been glaring at me every day. I need to get it. Yeah. You can pick up I mean, it'll run on just about any hardware. So Yeah. Yeah. I've got this what is it? ThinkPad t 14 g two fourteen inch. Cool. How much is that? It's pretty slick. What is this? About $500? Wow. You can get them for even cheaper than that probably. Oh, I bet. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. Need to get a yeah. Because I've been thinking about getting one for because I've been thinking about taking a trip to Colombia to see our friend Bitcoin Beans sometime later this year.
And instead of bringing my other Apple Mac thing laptop, yeah, I just thought about bringing kind of a a knock around computer. Feels a little bit safer maybe.
[00:30:14] Permanerd:
For sure. And the cool part about it is if you don't like it, you know, if you if you download, say, Ubuntu and install it, and for some it just doesn't fit what you wanna do or you don't like it for some reason, you can just flash another operating system. And with Linux, they're all free. There is no product code or key code you have to put back in. You know, like, oh, I'd I'd something happened. My computer crashed. Now I have to figure out how to get Windows back on it. And, no, it's a legit copy of Windows. And, you know, this is just all that nonsense.
It's just all it's all open source. It's all free. And you can go through as many different distributions as you want. What do you run? Are you running Ubuntu? Or I'm running a I've run Linux Mint for a long time and hardcore And why do you why do you particular why do you pick that one? I've gone through I mean, I've tried I've tried so many different ones, and this one just sort of fits me. It's it's simple to it's a good one to start with as well because it's already loaded with a bunch of stuff that you can use, LibreOffice and things like that. And so, I don't know, I just like it. A lot of hardcore Linux guys might say, like, oh, it's for babies or something. But I've been running Linux for probably jeez. Probably close to twenty years now.
And Wow. And it's just what I like. I've tried Fedora. I've tried Debian. I've tried different variations of all of them, and I've just sort of settled on on Linux Mint. So I would recommend it as a as a starter as well because, I mean, people I think people still think like, oh, you know, you have to be a command line terminal hero in order to use Linux. But once you fire it up, I mean, it's it's got a a beautiful GUI and menu system, and it's the same thing as anything else. Just click and Mhmm. Go on your merry way. Yeah. Are you able to have multiple
[00:32:22] Oshi:
operating systems installed or is it just one at a time? Well,
[00:32:26] Permanerd:
I mean, you can. You can you can dual boot. A lot of people that have Windows will will dual boot and have one partition or a separate hard drive in the computer if it allows it, and then you can choose where you wanna boot to. I mean, could probably put multiple different ones. I don't know how many, but if you partition the hard drive and put them on. But the thing is that it's all you have to do is is just to blow it up and put a new one, nuke and pave, and just go through that way too.
[00:32:56] Oshi:
Mhmm. Yeah. Sounds fun.
[00:32:58] Permanerd:
It is. And, like, it's just it's that it's that freedom tech. It's the not realizing that, like, the whole the whole operating system for Windows or Android or iOS or anything else, it's just like funneling you into this this advertising model or, you know, trying to collect your data, like you said, or or get money out of you somehow. Mhmm. Right. And then you try to do you know, like, oh, I wanna put this on here. Oh, sorry. You're not allowed to do that. Or I need to do this. I wanna I wanna customize this. Oh, sorry. You can't do that because it's proprietary and closed source. Whereas I can see every file and, you know, all the code on this computer if I want to. Yeah. Yep. I've got homework to do. Yeah. Absolutely.
I expect you to do it. Alright,
[00:33:55] Oshi:
dad. I won't come out of my room till I'm done.
[00:33:57] Permanerd:
No shepherd for you. There was another note that was received on Nostrand. He had mentioned bitcoin beans, and it's a it's kind of a it's a it's a permaculture question. But we can go into that if Yeah. Let's, let's segue. So bitcoin beans wrote, I'd love to hear your top five permaculture tips and tricks for creating maximum biodiversity, health, and vitality in your garden beds if at all possible. Keep up the good work, fellas. You are bossing. Hell, yeah, we are. And so the I mean, biodiversity just means having biological diversity, whether that is plants, animals, bugs, insects, birds, blah blah blah. And and so just having healthy soil in order to enable that and then planting, You know, you keeping your soil covered is a huge thing.
And whether that's with straw or mulch or compost, cardboard, for, you know, temporary coverage. What I like to do is put cardboard down and then cover it with a bunch of mulch, and now you're adding that carbon back in that we talked about before. And then Mhmm. Plant in in layers. So we had talked about gilding out trees and things like that. And so those layers are going to allow you to plant into a a more diversity and then just finding everything that that you want. Right? Like, no monocropping. But if you whatever you want to put into into your permaculture design, you could find a spot for it.
And then planting as many diverse vegetables, herbs, flowers, you know, and and creating nitrogen fixers and and vines and and everything else. And then, having something flowering all the time is ideal as well. So find things that will will flower in the early spring all the way up till fall if possible where you're at. And that's also a good a good tip for like, if you if you have an apple tree and you have five apple trees and they're all the same variety and they all are maybe an early early apple tree, so now they're producing fruit earlier than than other types of apple trees. If you get a late frost, then there's a good chance that it's gonna take out your entire harvest of apples because they are all the same variety or the same they're all going to mature at the same time and Mhmm. And ripen at the same time. Or the the, you know, the flowers are gonna come out at the same time. And then if they freeze, the flowers die, and then you don't get any yield whatsoever.
And so if you can stagger it and have an early, a mid, and a late variety of trees, then that's another good way to diversify and to protect your harvest that way. And and in order to to grow things effectively, a good mindset is that you're not feeding the plants. You know, if you're using fertilizer or compost or whatever you're doing, you're actually feeding the soil. Mhmm. And then that is what is feeding the plants. And so just a a different way to think of it. And once you start feeding the soil, then all of the different types of variety of plants that you're trying to grow will be much, much healthier.
And then number five, I would say, is that if you leave wilderness so if you like, I've got I've got piles of of sticks and branches that I just leave. I think we talked about that before. And it gives a place for the snakes to live and the other critters and, you know, leave ponds or or well, also leave also leave some dead trees standing for woodpecker and other bugs in there and, you know, maybe some even some undisturbed forest area and stuff like that, which is going to create that biodiversity and allow for for the the garden ecosystem to remain in balance. So I don't know if that answered answered, Bitcoin Beans' question, but there might be might be something useful there. Yeah. There's
[00:39:00] Oshi:
yeah. There's definitely a nugget in there because he's asking because he's growing cacao where he is. So I'm not sure if you know much about that kind of thing.
[00:39:10] Permanerd:
No. I mean, cacao in particular, haven't ever studied or, you know, I know that it's a lot warmer than it is here. And, you know, but it's still the same the same principles apply.
[00:39:25] Oshi:
Right. Scale and variant for sure for like everything else. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Good foundations. Good soil.
[00:39:33] Permanerd:
Yep. Feeding the soil. I mean, you're not I mean, you can look at yourself as a as a a plant, fruit, vegetable farmer, but you can also look at yourself as as a soil farmer. Right? Like, you're farming microbes and and different sub creatures down in the in the soil. And once that is healthy, then
[00:39:56] Oshi:
everything else will follow suit. Yeah. It's such a it's such a shame that big ag just doesn't really follow these principles it seems. It's always just fertilizer or sprays or things like that, monocrop.
[00:40:10] Permanerd:
It's just it's crazy to me. It sounds so simple to just do this. Yeah. It it is and it's the way that it used to be but then, you know, with the introduction of of chemical fertilizers, and I believe it was after World War two, there's a a bunch of, I don't know, nitrogen or something left over from probably building bombs or some other sort of ridiculousness, and they needed to do something to do with it. And they figured out that if you add it to crops that they grow they grow much better. And then what's your what's your your favorite guy? The fence guy?
[00:40:50] Oshi:
Chesterton's. Chesterton's.
[00:40:52] Permanerd:
Like, it's the oh, just throw it on there and, you know, don't worry about the consequences that are going to come up later, which is the death of of the soil and everything that's in it. And then reliance constant reliance on more fertilizer and plowing, which is destroying it as well. And then you also add government subsid subsidization. Subsizing? Subsization? That's the one. And and now you've got a rely yeah. I mean, you got a reliance on on money coming in and and not needing to worry about having, you know, regenerative practices and
[00:41:37] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. It's a vicious circle, man. It's I'm not I mean, thinking about how all this has come after, like you were saying, World War two, World War one, somewhere around there. And just to think about how that aligns I mean, I don't know. I'm talking out of my ass here. I mean, who knows if there's any correlation here, which I'm sure there is. But ever since the advent of the US dollar and especially how it's just I don't know, kind of funded mal incentives for a whole variety of things, especially agricultural stuff and the laundry list goes on. So it's kind of interesting to see that it's still going on. Nothing's really changed even though I think there would be much more of an abundance of food and just overall well-being if we were to just do this very simple tweak of the soil, focus on the soil again instead of all this nonsense with the spring. I don't know. It's just so stupid.
[00:42:35] Permanerd:
It it is. I agree a 100 it's also I mean, it also comes back like most other things that are tragically disruptive in the world. It comes back to the fiat currency system and having unlimited amounts of money to spread around to where you don't have to focus on on being productive. It's just, I mean, it's a welfare state and just funding of things that are the antithesis tentith the antithesis of Antithesis. Of common sense and and productivity.
[00:43:15] Oshi:
Yeah. Make common sense great again. Like where the hell did that go? Jeez. It's crazy. It's who is it George Carlin that said the Joker or something along the lines of the American dream. You gotta be asleep to see it. To believe it, you have to be asleep to balloon. Yeah.
[00:43:33] Permanerd:
It's home, man. Yeah. That's another one taken. Does Bitcoin fix this? I would imagine so. I mean, if To some degree. Yeah. I just think just the finite nature of of things where you can't yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's it's so crazy just how much money is spent fertilizers, and then you also have that, you know, oh, it's a supply chain disruptions, and now fertilizer is 10 times more expensive than it was. And farmers are relying on it, and now they can't afford to do it. And Yeah. Their soil's effed. Yeah. And they're making crap products out with it anyway.
[00:44:15] Oshi:
And then everyone gets sick and then they can't afford their health insurance and then it's just it's like what the hell? Print more money. Print more money inflation.
[00:44:24] Permanerd:
And yeah. Like you said, it's a vicious cycle.
[00:44:26] Oshi:
I I don't know. I think it's always just going to be like this and Bitcoin now just appears on the scene to give an option for people. And it's not even I mean, I think what Bitcoin really is also doing is just kind of unveiling the just stupidity of what's been going on and making it more apparent to people to then actually act accordingly because and that's why this whole time has been trying to be suppressed and whatnot. It's a slow awakening but it can't come all at once otherwise the whole system will just like who knows, just fucking blow up. Yeah, well it's gateway
[00:45:08] Permanerd:
drug to logical thinking I think.
[00:45:10] Oshi:
Yeah. It is. Exactly. It's like a psychedelic. They just ban it. Yeah. Right. Wait. This could have a positive effect on society? Wait. They could think again? No. No. No. No. No. Take these pills. Take, eat these fake eggs.
[00:45:27] Permanerd:
Yeah. Here. Have this chemically induced corn product.
[00:45:33] Oshi:
The the fake egg whites crack me up. I've seen it in a grocery store in a little carton. Carton. I was like, why don't you just get, like, eggs, guys? Egg whites? Where they make that out of? I have no idea. No idea. I'm guessing canola oil.
[00:45:47] Permanerd:
Some yeah. Some sort of oil. Yeah.
[00:45:50] Oshi:
But slop, man. Absolute slop.
[00:45:58] Permanerd:
We just talked about permaculture for a while, and I do have the next principle if you wanna go into that or we could just save that till next time also. Yeah. I mean, we're we're in it now, so let's go. We've gone through the first four already, which is number one, observe and interact, and then catch and store energy, obtain a yield, apply self regulation, and accept feedback. And now we're on number five, which is use and value renewable resources and service. And that's pretty much what it what it says. And I know that there's, you know, the whole renewable energy and, you know, I don't I don't necessarily buy into everything that has to do with solar panels are the best and wind and wind energy and and all that. You know? It's a whole different topic.
But it is good for permaculture systems to use as many renewable resources as as you can, which includes that sunlight and catching rain wire rainwater. And then there's different methods too for, like, firewood. You can coppice trees and grow fast growing trees in order to have a higher yield. You know, you can unlike what we're talking about the strip mining and and just cutting down all the trees, you can you can manage it to where, you know, every year you get enough firewood. And then creating your own compost and, you know, having chickens and feeding the food scraps to the chicken and using their manure for composting and growing, pollinating flowers and plants for the the different insects and growing perennials instead of growing annuals and and then using nitrogen fixing plants in your guilds or around. And now you're you're not needing as many inputs as far as, you know, for fertilization techniques and Mhmm. Having worm bins and feeding food scraps into there. And so what this is doing, this principle is basically trying to get off of needing inputs and, you know, spending money and bringing things in.
So you're you're now creating this this loop within your own property or area Mhmm. And and using the different methods to do that. So you can yeah. There's this I'll keep it short, but that's that's basically the number five. Replace your purchased inputs with renewable
[00:49:05] Oshi:
inputs that you can control yourself. Yeah. It's cool. It makes me think of what I was saying earlier about how I'm trying to get ready for the farmers market here. But I'm also doing it on Nostrand, the website and stuff. But it makes me think of the jar recycle program that I have for the hottle butter jars. So if a customer buys a jar and they return it or so I can reuse it I give them a discount. So it's just like this circular reusable kind of resource like what you were talking about but just for my product, my business to keep that in the loop and save me going out buying more jars. But yeah, it's just creating a nice incentive to also keep the customer.
[00:49:49] Permanerd:
So yeah, it just made me think about that. And that'll be great for the farmers market too. If you get people to just and bring them you don't have to worry worry about shipping. Mhmm. Yeah exactly. I was talking to one of my milk
[00:50:01] Oshi:
and egg guy, Nathan. Shout out Nathan, he's a great guy. He was telling me he does the same with his egg cartons. He you know he gives them off what 25¢ if they return the carton. But it was just cool to see that someone else there is doing that. But I was I was thinking if someone were to return the jars, would give them, I don't know, something generous like $5 off. So I'm curious to see how it goes. I'm really excited.
[00:50:25] Permanerd:
Yeah. I look forward to hearing about it as well. I think that's gonna be I think it's gonna be fantastic.
[00:50:31] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. Everybo everybody's been telling me you should do the farmer's market and I just always been putting it off just because of everything required of me, all the legal stupid stuff but
[00:50:43] Permanerd:
You have to get insurance Yeah. And stuff
[00:50:46] Oshi:
You gotta have general liability insurance per month which is only 25 a month. It's not anything crazy but it's something annoying that I have to consider. So there's the general liability. There's the market fee per day that you do it. It's like maybe $35. And then what is the other thing? Oh for this particular market you have to pay for the it's like a monthly thing. It's like $50 for the business insurance. I don't even know exactly what it is but yeah few hurdles, very annoying and that's always been putting me off but yeah I'm kind of feeling the fire under my bum to try this.
[00:51:27] Permanerd:
So here we are. How long does the farmers market go? Is it just the summer? Is it a year round thing?
[00:51:33] Oshi:
It goes year round. So I'm gonna be grinding definitely. Wow. Yep. I made this other thing on my website last night actually using Kimmy K3. Bitcoin kind of guide, like frequently asked questions and things like that because I wanna help, I don't know, expose people to Bitcoin and have a reference on my website for people to go to to read about it. That's readable. It's not crazy technical jargon but kind of puts the the case forward for actually learning this thing. So I spent last night doing that and on my table I have a little sign that says Bitcoin accepted here.
And then a little QR code on the other side with a little arrow, learn more or something like that. So I just wanna be that Bitcoin guy at the market that everybody's gonna talk about. Yeah. Cool. I really do. We'll see how it goes. Nice. Well, I wish you luck, sir.
[00:52:33] Permanerd:
So I think the last thing we should do is the town square.
[00:52:37] Oshi:
Yes. Who do we got? I was thinking
[00:52:41] Permanerd:
Keto licious. Oh, good call. Yep. And that is Jerky made by Jay. BJ. By BJ. And they're Awesome stuff. Yeah. She does have a a little booth at Take My Sats, but also at ketolish, ketolish.us. Dotus.
[00:53:17] Oshi:
Oh, US. We'll go minor. And so
[00:53:23] Permanerd:
I haven't been able to try our product but I have heard good about it.
[00:53:30] Oshi:
Yeah. I remember we we traded something a while back together. I had the dill pickle one.
[00:53:36] Permanerd:
That was really good. Nice. That reminds me of now that we're like heavy into the baseball game. I've been getting some sunflower seed and I think that the dill pickle one. Hell yeah. So, yeah, try out KetoLISH beef jerky, and let her know that Yada sent you. Alright. Get some. Get get some. Alright, Oshi. Where can everybody find you? What would you like them to know?
[00:54:12] Oshi:
What would I like you to know? You can go to the website oshi good dot us, poke around, go to the tools thing, check out the batch price tool. Let me know if that's helpful. If you're a a maker of some sort and need help with your pricings and margin, costs, goods, and things. Got some jars in there. I really don't have too much. It's always first come first serve anyways. This is how it's gonna be, guys. And I think that's it. I don't really have no. I don't have anything written Soon to be found at a farmer's market near you. Maybe.
Maybe. Keep your eyes peeled. What do you got going on in this shop? Same. Everything.
[00:54:56] Permanerd:
I still haven't found time to put any of the ice cream stuff that I've that I've done, but I've given some to people. And and, yeah, the feedback's been great on that stuff. But I think oh, yeah. As soon as I'll try to get it up eventually. I say that every week. But, yeah, it's satsforsnacks.com, the number four. And or just hit me up. I've been doing a lot of three d printing lately, so that's kept me busy. I've been doing stuff for the baseball team and and gifts for the coaches and and things like that. So
[00:55:35] Oshi:
That's cool. I actually thought about you for the three d printing stuff. I'm not sure. It may be cool to get like a little bitcoin b or something printed for the table. I don't know.
[00:55:46] Permanerd:
Yeah. Let me know, man. That'd fun. Let me Yeah. I mean, we could even get your logo probably and Oh. I'm not I haven't done much with creating models. But I'm sure that Kimmy three will be able to help her. We've been really supporting the Chinese open model this episode. Pretty sure that you're a communist. Get her to New York City.
[00:56:13] Oshi:
Yeah.
[00:56:14] Permanerd:
Yeah. It's never really been tried though. I think that, like, it just hasn't been done right. I think that socialism is is the way to go. Just give it a shot. Yeah. That's why everybody from those countries is moving to The United States because they wanna try it here. Yeah.
[00:56:31] Oshi:
We got a different taste of it.
[00:56:38] Permanerd:
Right on, man. Well, it's good to be back in the saddle
[00:56:42] Oshi:
after a delay. Hopefully, we can keep it going.
[00:56:45] Permanerd:
Well, we've got baseball next weekend as well, and then going up on a going up camping way up north on the island and going on a a fishing charter at some point. But I hopefully, I'll be able to do a show next week. I'll I'll keep you informed. Okay. Yeah.
[00:57:05] Oshi:
Catch us here on the Fridays.
[00:57:08] Permanerd:
But until next time, remember that you are the algorithm.
Hello, and welcome to the Yada podcast where you are the algorithm. I am Permanerd, and I am joined with the dulcet tones of my good friend, Oshi.
[00:00:32] Oshi:
How are you doing, Oshi? I'm doing well. It's good to talk to you again. It's been, what? A week of absence that we had? A week of abstinence
[00:00:40] Permanerd:
or a year of Abstinence. Oh, what what did you say? Abominable. Yes. Last week, which I don't even think we we mentioned anywhere that so if if you guys were thinking that we were gone, if we pod faded after a week, I had an out of town baseball tournament for the kid, and we hooked up the the trailer and took it down and did some camping in a usually, when we go camping, it's out in the middle of nowhere. This was more like 200 campsites and a putt putt golf course and a pool and a little store. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. It worked out it worked out pretty well.
And then the ended up taking third in the tournament out of 16 teams, which Cool. We should have been probably in in the top two. But the semi final game, we played the team that ended up winning. And we played our our worst game by far of the season. And I was talking to their coach, and he said that they played that that was the best game that they'd played all year. And Of course. There was there was kid umpires. Like, the kid was, I mean, he couldn't have been more than 12. What? And yes. And then there was some some pretty questionable calls, which can be expected. But then, apparently, some of the grandparents of our players started mouthing off in the in the stands.
And it turned Is there drinking involved? No, man. There's no alcohol there. It's just well, I don't know. Maybe they had a flask or something. I wasn't I wasn't near enough to hear what was going on. But Just some mad Canadians, man. That's right. Getting riled up over baseball. They tell you that they're nice, but nah. Well, it is. I mean, it's it's u nine, but people are living reliving their childhood or trying to capture the championship they never had. And I mean, I get it. You know, there's when you see a bad call and you think that you have a chance, but, I mean, we ended up getting slaughtered.
So a couple calls from the ounce wasn't you know, it did change the momentum a bit, but Mhmm. You can't blame that. But in in the end, our head coach ended up getting suspended for the next game because of the the actions of the the crowd. So it was a Holy cow. We're still we're still dealing with the the fallout from from all of it. So it's yeah. That's Well, it sounded like a a very eventful trip. It did, man. It was yeah. It was crazy. But yeah. How about you over the last two weeks?
[00:03:21] Oshi:
I've been low key kind of getting ready to do the farmer's market here. I haven't really spoke about it much. But, yeah, just kinda prepping for that, trying to figure out table set up and getting all the right paperwork needed, stupid little permits and things for the for the market and such. But, yeah, it's kind of what I've been grinding out on. I just went and picked up some cheap little frames for the menu kind of thing for the just like the two butters that I have. So, yeah, made a little Bitcoin accepted here sign, which is really fun because I can guarantee you no one there is accepting Bitcoin or even knows that they could rather if they're on square or whatever. But, yeah, that's what I've been grinding out quietly.
[00:04:09] Permanerd:
Nice. So you haven't even you weren't even close to getting into a fist fight. Crazy.
[00:04:13] Oshi:
No. No. No. Not yet. Maybe at the market. Yeah. Right.
[00:04:17] Permanerd:
You accept Ethereum? Why you? Yeah. What? No. Get out of my Solana? No. Leave my stall now. Cool.
[00:04:29] Oshi:
That's exciting. Should we yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's been fun, but let's let's run the numbers. I'm kind of curious how we did on the last episode.
[00:04:37] Permanerd:
Oh, okay. Yeah. I guess we'll get into it. This is a value for value podcast, which means if we show up, which we are here, obviously, that we record the show, put it out, and it's not behind any paywalls. We don't have advertising per se. And if you find any value in it, then you can give it back in any way you can, whether that's an Oscar note, an email at sayhi@youarethealgo.com. Or what we prefer the most and is easiest to keep track of is if you send a boost via any podcasting two point o enabled podcast that, allows for sending small amounts of Bitcoin.
And along with those are boosted grams, and we'll read those now from since the last time we recorded. And the first one is 210 sats from Alice a, our new best friend. Yep. And this is sent from boostmebitch.com. And it says testing from boost me bitch fountain issue. And I agree, Alice. I also have fountain issues. I cannot still log in to fountain via Noster on my Graphene OS, which has been now for a month or so. And it is a pain in the butt because it is the easiest way I find to to be able to boost podcasts.
And then there are the next one is three thirty three from our other friend, Jim Seaford. Nice. And it is these are from episode 14, Microwave Me. So this is episode 15 that you are listening to now. And it says, observe and interact part of permaculture is something I've always done but didn't know. I think most are reactionary. We see a problem and try to fix it. But now I slow down, watch, and wait, and really see what's happening before any any interaction.
[00:06:47] Oshi:
Hashtag s m I j. Hashtag zapped. Hashtag grow nostril. Yeah. Yeah. It falls into that same principle of Chesterton's fence that we were talking about a couple episodes ago I think. And Chesterton's
[00:07:00] Permanerd:
fence
[00:07:02] Oshi:
is Oh, just basically just the principle of not removing the thing first upon, you know, seeing the issue but rather considering why it's there in the first place before removing it. Yeah. What it Yeah. Actually kind of Does. Yeah. It might have an actual purpose, guys. So just leave it as it is and go from there. Maybe we shouldn't strip mine that entire mountain of trees. Maybe they have a purpose. Yep.
[00:07:29] Permanerd:
And we got another 199 sats from Alice a again. And it says first boost from boost me bitch since my fountain boost went into the So did you lose the the actual sats from that or did it just not go through? That is the question. You have to send us another boost in order to answer that question. And then a 111 from bullish clips. And it says, don't recall sending any eggplant emojis, so not sure where that came from, l o l. Yep. And so I think that was before I think last episode, he had a 1,111 sats. And and then there's there's four eggplants. This one is a 111 sats and there's three eggplants. I think that that is something that that helipad, which is what I use to track the boost, And I think it automatically puts them in because the the next one is 420 stats from undisciplined, and it puts like a peace sign alien and then smoke emojis after that. So I think that there are just a few a few different donations that automatically generate these things. That's funny.
And on Disciplined's message says, dear resistant dear dear resist dear is a PR scam pushed by pig nursery. I agree. True. I agree. They get they buy these thing. Oh, this flower, beautiful flower, deer resistant, and then it's just like candy to them and they just just grub it. Yep. We had, our our garden gate got left open a couple times and just annihilation over the last couple weeks. Brutal. Damn. And then another four four four from Alice. And this is from Fountain though. So that one did work. And it says bit axe solo minor hit on Block 711.
Good numbers. Yeah. So we're talking about before somebody had asked, I think of whether we solo mined or mined in a pool. I think this was what was in reference to that. But, I mean, that would be fantastic. Like, you just do do do do do and then you get a message. Oh, you've received 3.25 Bitcoin.
[00:09:58] Oshi:
Yeah. You don't have to work now. That's right.
[00:10:03] Permanerd:
As much. Yeah. Right. Right. And then we got a 100 sats from Ivor Tola. That's what that is. 100 sats from Ivor Tola. It says more interesting than Josh's stamp collection. So I I mean Wait. You have a stamp collection? Yeah. Apparently, I do. And he doesn't know how good it is. Ivor, you've never seen my stamp collection. It's mostly food stamps, but, you know, what are you gonna do? Then we got a thousand sats from Meyer BTC, also on. And it said love getting a shout out in the intro. Appreciate both you guys. Hell yeah, Mayor. What's up, Mayor? Well, we appreciate you Definitely. As well.
As we do with our good friend, Palmyra, with 5,555 sats, which may may be a record. And this one says hashtag Yada. And the problem is the solution. Permanenters comfrey salve salve is luxurious and healing. Short read documenting my journey to health. Thank you for the SATS Pit shout out. And then it's h t t p s. Take my sats.com forward slash sats bit. And then but I don't understand because it says short read documenting my journey to health, but there's no link or anything. So I'm not really sure how that works.
Let us know. Yes. But I did create a a meme as well for for Pam and their sad pit because I've been using it if I ever use deodorant, which is only when I go to the big smoke. Mhmm. But it was the Dosakis guy, and it just says that I don't always use deodorant. But when I do, I use Sats Pit. Yeah. There's a little jar of it.
[00:12:08] Oshi:
Yeah. It's good stuff. I I love using it. And much like you, I don't really use deodorant very much, but every now and then if I'm going out somewhere, I definitely use it now. It smells really good. And I think that was the end for the new ones, but the next one I'm gonna read anyway because it is timeless. And it says, speaking of having to hashtag YADA, remember, you can support the show by
[00:12:30] Permanerd:
re by using referral code YADA when signing up for Take My Sats. Create a store and start selling stuff for Sats the easy way. Httpcolon//www.takemy Sats. Now Check it. Oh. Oh. No. No. You. So that was all the boost, but there have been some some new streams as well. Let's go. So we've been we've got a few boost or streams from from Jim Seifert had figured out the stream button. Good job, Jim. And then Meijer BTC as well. And then I think that is all the new ones. So, yeah, using Fountain, you can also stream per minute, I think. However,
[00:13:23] Oshi:
per fifteen seconds. It's a cool feature.
[00:13:25] Permanerd:
It is a cool feature. So, yeah, that was all the the feedback we got through boosts and streaming. So thank you all. Now move on to the analytics because we are high-tech. And Let's hit it. Let's see. So we've got a total of 9,291 all time downloads. So let's crank it up. Let's get to 10,005 digits because then we'll feel special. So for the the last episode, number 14, Microwave Me, we've had 480 downloads and then followed by five hundred and twenty three and six zero nine. So apparently, Microwave Me is not doing as well as the rest.
[00:14:24] Oshi:
Oh, I don't know. I I feel like all the other ones have gotten the same amount, but, yeah, you're probably right.
[00:14:30] Permanerd:
And, I mean, Microwave Me sounds like something from the Gremlins. Do you remember that that movie? I've watched some of it. Yeah. Yeah. They go through some pretty interesting ways of destroying the Gremlins, and I'm pretty sure one of them wasn't a micro Yeah. Apple Podcast and Domus are still the two dominant players. And iPhone is destroying everything else followed by Android with a very small percentage. The best episode or the most downloads have been number four, Abominable Farewell. And looking at the download numbers from the last episode, I wonder if that's because people are hoping we're going away. Like, oh listen to that one, these guys are getting out of here.
[00:15:21] Oshi:
We can just rename the rest of the other ones that way. Yeah. Yeah. Fine. We're leaving. The final battle. The last call. The Just make it a meme that way. Oh,
[00:15:35] Permanerd:
let's see here. It looks like we've gotten some oh my gosh. There's a whole list of new oh my. Of new countries at the at the bottom of this list with one download. Did we hit China? Well, let's see. China. 29 downloads from China. China. China. Let's see. At the the bottom here, new ones are Kazakhstan and Guyana. And I thought I saw some more of the Cyprus, Palestine. Hit us up from Palestine. What is happening Yeah. Over there? Wow. Slovenia, Ecuador, Pakistan, Cameroon, Algeria, Africa. Give us some love in Africa too.
Send us a message. Wow. I mean, we are we are global. That's cool. Can't wait to sign with a major label. Yeah. A Warner Brothers or something? Yeah. Be sick. That's probably next.
[00:16:45] Oshi:
Yeah. It's coming, man. It's coming. We just, you know, keep the keep the titles as if we're just leaving. Yeah. Right.
[00:16:54] Permanerd:
You gotta get them somehow. I mean, you never know. We might be gone next week. This is a this might be the last one. Speaking of which, a shout out and a RIP to John C. Dvorak, who is one of the my favorite people to listen to and cohost of the No Agenda show. And he apparently passed away on Monday sort of unexpectedly. And, yeah, that's a a major loss to podcasting and the world in general. And on that downer That's a bummer. Yeah. It was a bummer. I just heard about it yesterday, and it was I don't really I don't usually feel sad for people that I've never met, but, like, it it actually it actually hit me emotionally, man.
[00:17:50] Oshi:
Yeah, man. I know I know the feeling for sure. Yeah. I'm a big fan of Rush. And when I heard that Neil when Neil passed away, that that hit me pretty hard. So
[00:18:00] Permanerd:
hug the people that you love and tell them that you love them. Alright. That's enough of the sappiness. The the last part of our our Roundup is and don't use Roundup. Glyphosate's bad. Is the Lycum jar.
[00:18:18] Oshi:
Oh, true.
[00:18:20] Permanerd:
Forgot about it. This one is is is pretty interesting. There's I think something must be amiss here because for episode 14, it says that you only had 1,961 words. And that's down I mean, that's half of what you normally spew out of your pie hole. So Yeah. I do speak a little bit more than that. Yes. I don't know. I don't know. And then and so it says you have 10 fillers, which is a point five one percentage, and that's nine ums and one like. I
[00:18:53] Oshi:
don't know. I feel like there was at least three likes in there. Yeah.
[00:18:56] Permanerd:
And then it says I have 6,154, which is about no Sounds yeah. That's about normal. But then it says zero fillers.
[00:19:07] Oshi:
BS.
[00:19:08] Permanerd:
Yeah. I would I would imagine we threw in some yeah. I'll I'll have to I'm not gonna do it, but go for have to ask throw it into Kimmy k three real quick. Let it fix it up. Oh, well, there let's talk about that in a second, but we'll wrap this up. That's the end of the value for value section. Thank you everybody for all of the feedback and and just listening in general. And another way you can share it is if you think someone else would like the nonsense that we spew, go ahead and share the show with them.
We'll be rolling first. Tell me about Kimmy. Kimmy?
[00:19:57] Oshi:
She's kinda cute. No. The the new model from who is the main I can't remember the name of the company. But, yeah, the new model Kimi K3 came out I don't know was it a week ago, two weeks ago? I don't remember but been hearing good things about it so I gave it a whirl on a few things and yeah it works really great. It's cheaper than the what was it, Claude Opus 4.8 or something. It's like half the price of it and it works really well. And it's open source which is really interesting considering the fact that all these other models, frontier model models like, oh there's a like that'll count.
One. Yep one. But yeah it's just it's so much cheaper than these other Claude models, ChatGPT models and it works just as well. A lot of these AI IPO things that have been the whole rage lately, think a big bubble, big bubble coming for that, I think. We'll see. Yeah. It's sort of the com to the dot a. Mhmm.
[00:21:09] Permanerd:
Yeah. It seems like there's a lot of bubbles that are about Yeah.
[00:21:12] Oshi:
I feel it. I definitely feel it. And I'm just glad to see that these models are open source but you know, they're coming from China. So I don't I don't know what to trust. I don't know what to think exactly. But cheaper prices for good AI models? I mean sign me up. Definitely.
[00:21:29] Permanerd:
Looks like it's from Moonshot AI. Moonshot. Thank you. Yeah. Yep. But yeah. It's let's see what they I mean, they've got the it says they've got the code here. Oh, boy. Hang around. Yeah.
[00:21:41] Oshi:
I've been messing around with it within so I use Versus Code and then I have RU, a little plug in. Actually you gave me that tip Mhmm. To use RU in there, which has been great. Thank you. And p p q dot a I for accessing a bunch of different models. So I've been just using that connecting with Kimi K3 and building some stuff. Yeah it's been great. It's been great for planning mode, like architectural mode before you start building stuff. I find that really important to do. Built this batch price tool actually on the Oshi website. If you go to the oshigood.us website and you go up to the tools thing, you'll see batch price and I built this with it. And I kind of built this for myself just for helping calculate profit margin and pricing for the things I make, the butter I make because I make different things every now and then.
This is pretty helpful. So definitely go in and check it out. You can go in and put your ingredients, your batch, your expected yield, put in additional costs like your packaging and even consider your labor, your time, which is really helpful.
[00:22:54] Permanerd:
I don't know why you need to make a profit. You should just you know
[00:22:59] Oshi:
Like are you are you trying to eat or something? Yeah. Do you have rent? It's not very open source. Dude, you're a criminal. Do you do you support C Sam?
[00:23:12] Permanerd:
But one thing you did mention, which when you first told me, we talked about about Kimmy a little bit before we started recording. And that was the first thing I did was go to ppq.ai and see if it was if it was one of the models that they support. So they do. And if you don't know what ppq.ai is, it's just a aggregate model AI where you can use just about anything it looks like
[00:23:43] Oshi:
and Mhmm. Pay with Bitcoin. Or Monero or I think even Tether as well. Oh, yeah. You can also use credit card. But, yeah, I've mostly just used my Sats for credits, tokens. I've also used Monero because some people have actually paid me a Monero for some products. I think I built half of the Oshi website with Monero.
[00:24:05] Permanerd:
Fun fact. Nice. Got rid of it. Yeah.
[00:24:08] Oshi:
Yeah. Just used it up. Actually built something with it. So you know, it's money. Mean if it works. Works up with it.
[00:24:14] Permanerd:
Yeah. But then yeah that that workflow with the Roux connected to Versus Code running PPQ and whatever model you want is is golden. So if you think you can't find it, you can.
[00:24:28] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. The thing for me that takes a while is kind of sitting and writing things down as to what I need help with or just kind of problems that I have that I could then build something instead of just, know, I don't know, dicking around building stupid little things. I like to actually build tools for myself even if it's simple but I find this, I mean this latest thing on the Oshi website, the little batch price tool.
[00:24:54] Permanerd:
I find it pretty helpful. That's great. And that's exactly what Mhmm. If you can't find something build it. Yep. I've also is now. Spent some time over the last couple of weeks. I'm still I've I've got this new computer, a few months old now, but I'm still struggling with connecting to WiFi after it goes to sleep and just some other little problems that arise that are annoyances more than anything and time consuming. And so I decided that I was a few BIOS updates behind. And so for anybody who doesn't know, the BIOS is just sort of the underlying operating system of the computer.
It gets in the it's hard it's baked into the into the actual hardware so that it doesn't matter if you have a hard drive in it. You can still boot to the BIOS and and there's configure some options for your computer and whatnot. And so I was hoping that that that would help because it is a new Wi Fi card and and GPU and things. So I was hoping that a BIOS update would would help. And since I run Linux on it, I took out the hard drive as soon as it came in. It's an m two something something something hard drive. And I instantly took it out because I had Windows on and put a new one in and installed Linux.
And there's no way on this computer to update the BIOS unless you go through Windows. Unreal. Usually, you can get a a downloadable tool that will boot from a USB stick, and then you can just boot to it and update the BIOS. Nope. Not on this model. So then I had to take it apart. And there's two slots for hard drives, so I just put the Windows one back into the other slot and booted from that. And what a just a nightmare. It's so it's so disheartening to go through the setup process. And and so it it ended up booting the computer three or four times before it even let me get to a to set it up.
And then one of the first questions is, you know, connect to Wi Fi. And so stupidly, did just thinking that I was going to need to anyway. But then it goes through and it does the updates or something. And then it says, okay. Log in to your account or create a new one. I'm like, I'm not I I don't want to log in with Microsoft. Right? You know, I'm you're forcing me to use this to begin with. Just let me create a local account. But once you set up Wi Fi, it won't let you do just a local account. And so I found that you have to push shift f 10 to go into PowerShell, and then there's a command to boot to a local only account, and then you have to reboot and then set up that account.
And it's just I I it it hurts my my soul Yeah. Dealing with Yeah. It hurts me just thinking about it. Yeah. And it just it hurts everything just with the dealing with Windows or, like, stock Android or I'm sure it's the same with Mac OS or iPhone and just, like, I want these things I want them connected to each other where I want them connected. I don't want to have one ring to control them all. Yeah. I mean, how else are they gonna harvest your info? Yeah. It does. You know what? It almost feels like harvesting organs. It's so painful for me to go through.
[00:28:30] Oshi:
Yeah. I hear you, man.
[00:28:33] Permanerd:
So I've I've had my last three computers have been Lenovos, and it's it's just so disheartening to to realize that I've had to go through the actual operating or Windows.
[00:28:45] Oshi:
Mhmm. Yeah. I've been thinking about picking up one, one of those ThinkPads just for just for learning on because I I've never really messed around with Lennox personally. So I feel like I need to mess around with it. Well, if anybody
[00:28:59] Permanerd:
I mean, I'm I'm here to help you obviously, but I would also if anybody if anybody wants to go through rehab, the first problem or the first thing you have to do is admit that you have a problem, whether that is Windows or Mac OS. And, I'll be your sponsor. I'll I'll help you through it. I'll take it. Yeah. Definitely.
[00:29:23] Oshi:
Yep. I've got it on my tab here on my computer because it's just been glaring at me every day. I need to get it. Yeah. You can pick up I mean, it'll run on just about any hardware. So Yeah. Yeah. I've got this what is it? ThinkPad t 14 g two fourteen inch. Cool. How much is that? It's pretty slick. What is this? About $500? Wow. You can get them for even cheaper than that probably. Oh, I bet. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. Need to get a yeah. Because I've been thinking about getting one for because I've been thinking about taking a trip to Colombia to see our friend Bitcoin Beans sometime later this year.
And instead of bringing my other Apple Mac thing laptop, yeah, I just thought about bringing kind of a a knock around computer. Feels a little bit safer maybe.
[00:30:14] Permanerd:
For sure. And the cool part about it is if you don't like it, you know, if you if you download, say, Ubuntu and install it, and for some it just doesn't fit what you wanna do or you don't like it for some reason, you can just flash another operating system. And with Linux, they're all free. There is no product code or key code you have to put back in. You know, like, oh, I'd I'd something happened. My computer crashed. Now I have to figure out how to get Windows back on it. And, no, it's a legit copy of Windows. And, you know, this is just all that nonsense.
It's just all it's all open source. It's all free. And you can go through as many different distributions as you want. What do you run? Are you running Ubuntu? Or I'm running a I've run Linux Mint for a long time and hardcore And why do you why do you particular why do you pick that one? I've gone through I mean, I've tried I've tried so many different ones, and this one just sort of fits me. It's it's simple to it's a good one to start with as well because it's already loaded with a bunch of stuff that you can use, LibreOffice and things like that. And so, I don't know, I just like it. A lot of hardcore Linux guys might say, like, oh, it's for babies or something. But I've been running Linux for probably jeez. Probably close to twenty years now.
And Wow. And it's just what I like. I've tried Fedora. I've tried Debian. I've tried different variations of all of them, and I've just sort of settled on on Linux Mint. So I would recommend it as a as a starter as well because, I mean, people I think people still think like, oh, you know, you have to be a command line terminal hero in order to use Linux. But once you fire it up, I mean, it's it's got a a beautiful GUI and menu system, and it's the same thing as anything else. Just click and Mhmm. Go on your merry way. Yeah. Are you able to have multiple
[00:32:22] Oshi:
operating systems installed or is it just one at a time? Well,
[00:32:26] Permanerd:
I mean, you can. You can you can dual boot. A lot of people that have Windows will will dual boot and have one partition or a separate hard drive in the computer if it allows it, and then you can choose where you wanna boot to. I mean, could probably put multiple different ones. I don't know how many, but if you partition the hard drive and put them on. But the thing is that it's all you have to do is is just to blow it up and put a new one, nuke and pave, and just go through that way too.
[00:32:56] Oshi:
Mhmm. Yeah. Sounds fun.
[00:32:58] Permanerd:
It is. And, like, it's just it's that it's that freedom tech. It's the not realizing that, like, the whole the whole operating system for Windows or Android or iOS or anything else, it's just like funneling you into this this advertising model or, you know, trying to collect your data, like you said, or or get money out of you somehow. Mhmm. Right. And then you try to do you know, like, oh, I wanna put this on here. Oh, sorry. You're not allowed to do that. Or I need to do this. I wanna I wanna customize this. Oh, sorry. You can't do that because it's proprietary and closed source. Whereas I can see every file and, you know, all the code on this computer if I want to. Yeah. Yep. I've got homework to do. Yeah. Absolutely.
I expect you to do it. Alright,
[00:33:55] Oshi:
dad. I won't come out of my room till I'm done.
[00:33:57] Permanerd:
No shepherd for you. There was another note that was received on Nostrand. He had mentioned bitcoin beans, and it's a it's kind of a it's a it's a permaculture question. But we can go into that if Yeah. Let's, let's segue. So bitcoin beans wrote, I'd love to hear your top five permaculture tips and tricks for creating maximum biodiversity, health, and vitality in your garden beds if at all possible. Keep up the good work, fellas. You are bossing. Hell, yeah, we are. And so the I mean, biodiversity just means having biological diversity, whether that is plants, animals, bugs, insects, birds, blah blah blah. And and so just having healthy soil in order to enable that and then planting, You know, you keeping your soil covered is a huge thing.
And whether that's with straw or mulch or compost, cardboard, for, you know, temporary coverage. What I like to do is put cardboard down and then cover it with a bunch of mulch, and now you're adding that carbon back in that we talked about before. And then Mhmm. Plant in in layers. So we had talked about gilding out trees and things like that. And so those layers are going to allow you to plant into a a more diversity and then just finding everything that that you want. Right? Like, no monocropping. But if you whatever you want to put into into your permaculture design, you could find a spot for it.
And then planting as many diverse vegetables, herbs, flowers, you know, and and creating nitrogen fixers and and vines and and everything else. And then, having something flowering all the time is ideal as well. So find things that will will flower in the early spring all the way up till fall if possible where you're at. And that's also a good a good tip for like, if you if you have an apple tree and you have five apple trees and they're all the same variety and they all are maybe an early early apple tree, so now they're producing fruit earlier than than other types of apple trees. If you get a late frost, then there's a good chance that it's gonna take out your entire harvest of apples because they are all the same variety or the same they're all going to mature at the same time and Mhmm. And ripen at the same time. Or the the, you know, the flowers are gonna come out at the same time. And then if they freeze, the flowers die, and then you don't get any yield whatsoever.
And so if you can stagger it and have an early, a mid, and a late variety of trees, then that's another good way to diversify and to protect your harvest that way. And and in order to to grow things effectively, a good mindset is that you're not feeding the plants. You know, if you're using fertilizer or compost or whatever you're doing, you're actually feeding the soil. Mhmm. And then that is what is feeding the plants. And so just a a different way to think of it. And once you start feeding the soil, then all of the different types of variety of plants that you're trying to grow will be much, much healthier.
And then number five, I would say, is that if you leave wilderness so if you like, I've got I've got piles of of sticks and branches that I just leave. I think we talked about that before. And it gives a place for the snakes to live and the other critters and, you know, leave ponds or or well, also leave also leave some dead trees standing for woodpecker and other bugs in there and, you know, maybe some even some undisturbed forest area and stuff like that, which is going to create that biodiversity and allow for for the the garden ecosystem to remain in balance. So I don't know if that answered answered, Bitcoin Beans' question, but there might be might be something useful there. Yeah. There's
[00:39:00] Oshi:
yeah. There's definitely a nugget in there because he's asking because he's growing cacao where he is. So I'm not sure if you know much about that kind of thing.
[00:39:10] Permanerd:
No. I mean, cacao in particular, haven't ever studied or, you know, I know that it's a lot warmer than it is here. And, you know, but it's still the same the same principles apply.
[00:39:25] Oshi:
Right. Scale and variant for sure for like everything else. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Good foundations. Good soil.
[00:39:33] Permanerd:
Yep. Feeding the soil. I mean, you're not I mean, you can look at yourself as a as a a plant, fruit, vegetable farmer, but you can also look at yourself as as a soil farmer. Right? Like, you're farming microbes and and different sub creatures down in the in the soil. And once that is healthy, then
[00:39:56] Oshi:
everything else will follow suit. Yeah. It's such a it's such a shame that big ag just doesn't really follow these principles it seems. It's always just fertilizer or sprays or things like that, monocrop.
[00:40:10] Permanerd:
It's just it's crazy to me. It sounds so simple to just do this. Yeah. It it is and it's the way that it used to be but then, you know, with the introduction of of chemical fertilizers, and I believe it was after World War two, there's a a bunch of, I don't know, nitrogen or something left over from probably building bombs or some other sort of ridiculousness, and they needed to do something to do with it. And they figured out that if you add it to crops that they grow they grow much better. And then what's your what's your your favorite guy? The fence guy?
[00:40:50] Oshi:
Chesterton's. Chesterton's.
[00:40:52] Permanerd:
Like, it's the oh, just throw it on there and, you know, don't worry about the consequences that are going to come up later, which is the death of of the soil and everything that's in it. And then reliance constant reliance on more fertilizer and plowing, which is destroying it as well. And then you also add government subsid subsidization. Subsizing? Subsization? That's the one. And and now you've got a rely yeah. I mean, you got a reliance on on money coming in and and not needing to worry about having, you know, regenerative practices and
[00:41:37] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. It's a vicious circle, man. It's I'm not I mean, thinking about how all this has come after, like you were saying, World War two, World War one, somewhere around there. And just to think about how that aligns I mean, I don't know. I'm talking out of my ass here. I mean, who knows if there's any correlation here, which I'm sure there is. But ever since the advent of the US dollar and especially how it's just I don't know, kind of funded mal incentives for a whole variety of things, especially agricultural stuff and the laundry list goes on. So it's kind of interesting to see that it's still going on. Nothing's really changed even though I think there would be much more of an abundance of food and just overall well-being if we were to just do this very simple tweak of the soil, focus on the soil again instead of all this nonsense with the spring. I don't know. It's just so stupid.
[00:42:35] Permanerd:
It it is. I agree a 100 it's also I mean, it also comes back like most other things that are tragically disruptive in the world. It comes back to the fiat currency system and having unlimited amounts of money to spread around to where you don't have to focus on on being productive. It's just, I mean, it's a welfare state and just funding of things that are the antithesis tentith the antithesis of Antithesis. Of common sense and and productivity.
[00:43:15] Oshi:
Yeah. Make common sense great again. Like where the hell did that go? Jeez. It's crazy. It's who is it George Carlin that said the Joker or something along the lines of the American dream. You gotta be asleep to see it. To believe it, you have to be asleep to balloon. Yeah.
[00:43:33] Permanerd:
It's home, man. Yeah. That's another one taken. Does Bitcoin fix this? I would imagine so. I mean, if To some degree. Yeah. I just think just the finite nature of of things where you can't yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's it's so crazy just how much money is spent fertilizers, and then you also have that, you know, oh, it's a supply chain disruptions, and now fertilizer is 10 times more expensive than it was. And farmers are relying on it, and now they can't afford to do it. And Yeah. Their soil's effed. Yeah. And they're making crap products out with it anyway.
[00:44:15] Oshi:
And then everyone gets sick and then they can't afford their health insurance and then it's just it's like what the hell? Print more money. Print more money inflation.
[00:44:24] Permanerd:
And yeah. Like you said, it's a vicious cycle.
[00:44:26] Oshi:
I I don't know. I think it's always just going to be like this and Bitcoin now just appears on the scene to give an option for people. And it's not even I mean, I think what Bitcoin really is also doing is just kind of unveiling the just stupidity of what's been going on and making it more apparent to people to then actually act accordingly because and that's why this whole time has been trying to be suppressed and whatnot. It's a slow awakening but it can't come all at once otherwise the whole system will just like who knows, just fucking blow up. Yeah, well it's gateway
[00:45:08] Permanerd:
drug to logical thinking I think.
[00:45:10] Oshi:
Yeah. It is. Exactly. It's like a psychedelic. They just ban it. Yeah. Right. Wait. This could have a positive effect on society? Wait. They could think again? No. No. No. No. No. Take these pills. Take, eat these fake eggs.
[00:45:27] Permanerd:
Yeah. Here. Have this chemically induced corn product.
[00:45:33] Oshi:
The the fake egg whites crack me up. I've seen it in a grocery store in a little carton. Carton. I was like, why don't you just get, like, eggs, guys? Egg whites? Where they make that out of? I have no idea. No idea. I'm guessing canola oil.
[00:45:47] Permanerd:
Some yeah. Some sort of oil. Yeah.
[00:45:50] Oshi:
But slop, man. Absolute slop.
[00:45:58] Permanerd:
We just talked about permaculture for a while, and I do have the next principle if you wanna go into that or we could just save that till next time also. Yeah. I mean, we're we're in it now, so let's go. We've gone through the first four already, which is number one, observe and interact, and then catch and store energy, obtain a yield, apply self regulation, and accept feedback. And now we're on number five, which is use and value renewable resources and service. And that's pretty much what it what it says. And I know that there's, you know, the whole renewable energy and, you know, I don't I don't necessarily buy into everything that has to do with solar panels are the best and wind and wind energy and and all that. You know? It's a whole different topic.
But it is good for permaculture systems to use as many renewable resources as as you can, which includes that sunlight and catching rain wire rainwater. And then there's different methods too for, like, firewood. You can coppice trees and grow fast growing trees in order to have a higher yield. You know, you can unlike what we're talking about the strip mining and and just cutting down all the trees, you can you can manage it to where, you know, every year you get enough firewood. And then creating your own compost and, you know, having chickens and feeding the food scraps to the chicken and using their manure for composting and growing, pollinating flowers and plants for the the different insects and growing perennials instead of growing annuals and and then using nitrogen fixing plants in your guilds or around. And now you're you're not needing as many inputs as far as, you know, for fertilization techniques and Mhmm. Having worm bins and feeding food scraps into there. And so what this is doing, this principle is basically trying to get off of needing inputs and, you know, spending money and bringing things in.
So you're you're now creating this this loop within your own property or area Mhmm. And and using the different methods to do that. So you can yeah. There's this I'll keep it short, but that's that's basically the number five. Replace your purchased inputs with renewable
[00:49:05] Oshi:
inputs that you can control yourself. Yeah. It's cool. It makes me think of what I was saying earlier about how I'm trying to get ready for the farmers market here. But I'm also doing it on Nostrand, the website and stuff. But it makes me think of the jar recycle program that I have for the hottle butter jars. So if a customer buys a jar and they return it or so I can reuse it I give them a discount. So it's just like this circular reusable kind of resource like what you were talking about but just for my product, my business to keep that in the loop and save me going out buying more jars. But yeah, it's just creating a nice incentive to also keep the customer.
[00:49:49] Permanerd:
So yeah, it just made me think about that. And that'll be great for the farmers market too. If you get people to just and bring them you don't have to worry worry about shipping. Mhmm. Yeah exactly. I was talking to one of my milk
[00:50:01] Oshi:
and egg guy, Nathan. Shout out Nathan, he's a great guy. He was telling me he does the same with his egg cartons. He you know he gives them off what 25¢ if they return the carton. But it was just cool to see that someone else there is doing that. But I was I was thinking if someone were to return the jars, would give them, I don't know, something generous like $5 off. So I'm curious to see how it goes. I'm really excited.
[00:50:25] Permanerd:
Yeah. I look forward to hearing about it as well. I think that's gonna be I think it's gonna be fantastic.
[00:50:31] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. Everybo everybody's been telling me you should do the farmer's market and I just always been putting it off just because of everything required of me, all the legal stupid stuff but
[00:50:43] Permanerd:
You have to get insurance Yeah. And stuff
[00:50:46] Oshi:
You gotta have general liability insurance per month which is only 25 a month. It's not anything crazy but it's something annoying that I have to consider. So there's the general liability. There's the market fee per day that you do it. It's like maybe $35. And then what is the other thing? Oh for this particular market you have to pay for the it's like a monthly thing. It's like $50 for the business insurance. I don't even know exactly what it is but yeah few hurdles, very annoying and that's always been putting me off but yeah I'm kind of feeling the fire under my bum to try this.
[00:51:27] Permanerd:
So here we are. How long does the farmers market go? Is it just the summer? Is it a year round thing?
[00:51:33] Oshi:
It goes year round. So I'm gonna be grinding definitely. Wow. Yep. I made this other thing on my website last night actually using Kimmy K3. Bitcoin kind of guide, like frequently asked questions and things like that because I wanna help, I don't know, expose people to Bitcoin and have a reference on my website for people to go to to read about it. That's readable. It's not crazy technical jargon but kind of puts the the case forward for actually learning this thing. So I spent last night doing that and on my table I have a little sign that says Bitcoin accepted here.
And then a little QR code on the other side with a little arrow, learn more or something like that. So I just wanna be that Bitcoin guy at the market that everybody's gonna talk about. Yeah. Cool. I really do. We'll see how it goes. Nice. Well, I wish you luck, sir.
[00:52:33] Permanerd:
So I think the last thing we should do is the town square.
[00:52:37] Oshi:
Yes. Who do we got? I was thinking
[00:52:41] Permanerd:
Keto licious. Oh, good call. Yep. And that is Jerky made by Jay. BJ. By BJ. And they're Awesome stuff. Yeah. She does have a a little booth at Take My Sats, but also at ketolish, ketolish.us. Dotus.
[00:53:17] Oshi:
Oh, US. We'll go minor. And so
[00:53:23] Permanerd:
I haven't been able to try our product but I have heard good about it.
[00:53:30] Oshi:
Yeah. I remember we we traded something a while back together. I had the dill pickle one.
[00:53:36] Permanerd:
That was really good. Nice. That reminds me of now that we're like heavy into the baseball game. I've been getting some sunflower seed and I think that the dill pickle one. Hell yeah. So, yeah, try out KetoLISH beef jerky, and let her know that Yada sent you. Alright. Get some. Get get some. Alright, Oshi. Where can everybody find you? What would you like them to know?
[00:54:12] Oshi:
What would I like you to know? You can go to the website oshi good dot us, poke around, go to the tools thing, check out the batch price tool. Let me know if that's helpful. If you're a a maker of some sort and need help with your pricings and margin, costs, goods, and things. Got some jars in there. I really don't have too much. It's always first come first serve anyways. This is how it's gonna be, guys. And I think that's it. I don't really have no. I don't have anything written Soon to be found at a farmer's market near you. Maybe.
Maybe. Keep your eyes peeled. What do you got going on in this shop? Same. Everything.
[00:54:56] Permanerd:
I still haven't found time to put any of the ice cream stuff that I've that I've done, but I've given some to people. And and, yeah, the feedback's been great on that stuff. But I think oh, yeah. As soon as I'll try to get it up eventually. I say that every week. But, yeah, it's satsforsnacks.com, the number four. And or just hit me up. I've been doing a lot of three d printing lately, so that's kept me busy. I've been doing stuff for the baseball team and and gifts for the coaches and and things like that. So
[00:55:35] Oshi:
That's cool. I actually thought about you for the three d printing stuff. I'm not sure. It may be cool to get like a little bitcoin b or something printed for the table. I don't know.
[00:55:46] Permanerd:
Yeah. Let me know, man. That'd fun. Let me Yeah. I mean, we could even get your logo probably and Oh. I'm not I haven't done much with creating models. But I'm sure that Kimmy three will be able to help her. We've been really supporting the Chinese open model this episode. Pretty sure that you're a communist. Get her to New York City.
[00:56:13] Oshi:
Yeah.
[00:56:14] Permanerd:
Yeah. It's never really been tried though. I think that, like, it just hasn't been done right. I think that socialism is is the way to go. Just give it a shot. Yeah. That's why everybody from those countries is moving to The United States because they wanna try it here. Yeah.
[00:56:31] Oshi:
We got a different taste of it.
[00:56:38] Permanerd:
Right on, man. Well, it's good to be back in the saddle
[00:56:42] Oshi:
after a delay. Hopefully, we can keep it going.
[00:56:45] Permanerd:
Well, we've got baseball next weekend as well, and then going up on a going up camping way up north on the island and going on a a fishing charter at some point. But I hopefully, I'll be able to do a show next week. I'll I'll keep you informed. Okay. Yeah.
[00:57:05] Oshi:
Catch us here on the Fridays.
[00:57:08] Permanerd:
But until next time, remember that you are the algorithm.
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Boosts, Streams, and Listener Feedback
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Remembering John C. Dvorak
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Top Permaculture Tips for Biodiversity
Permaculture Principle Five and Renewable Inputs
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