In this episode, I catch up with Oshi as we reflect on making it to episode 11, read through a great batch of listener boosts, and dig into the latest show stats. We also swap a couple of stories from the week, including Oshi rescuing a baby bird after a storm and my ongoing adventures with cross-border shipping, delayed packages, and the realities of running a Bitcoin-only food business. From there, we shout out the growing Bitcoin meetup culture around Comox Valley and talk about why small, values-aligned communities matter so much when you're building on the edges.
We also spend time in permaculture corner, exploring the ideas that “the problem is the solution” and “catch and store energy.” I share how wildlife pressure in the orchard turned into an opportunity to rework part of the food forest, and we get into soil carbon, water retention, mulch, biochar, and the importance of fungal networks beneath the surface. We close with a broader conversation about building on Nostr, staying consistent through slow sales cycles, and why doing business directly for sats still feels like one of the most meaningful paths forward.
- 'Take My Sats': https://www.takemysats.com/
- 'OshiGood': https://oshigood.us/
- 'Podhome': https://www.podhome.fm/
- 'Helipad (Umbrel App Store listing)': https://apps.umbrel.com/app/helipad
- 'Fountain': https://www.fountain.fm/
- 'Podcasting 2.0 Apps / Podcast Index': https://podcastindex.org/apps?appTypes=app&elements=Chapters%2CValue
- 'Nostr Protocol (GitHub repo)': https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr
- 'NIP-99 overview': https://nostrhub.io/99
- 'Damus': https://damus.io/
- 'Primal': https://primal.net/
- 'noStrudel': https://nostrudel.ninja/
- 'Conduit Market': https://conduit.market/
- 'Plebeian Market': https://plebeian.market/
- 'Shopstr': https://shopstr.market/
- 'Bitcoin Comox Valley Meetup': https://www.meetup.com/bitcoincomoxvalley/
- 'Bitcoin Comox Valley': https://bitcoincomoxvalley.ca/faq/
- 'Local Bitcoiners': https://localbitcoiners.com/
- 'Bitcoin': https://bitcoin.org/?hl=en
- 'Lightning Network': https://lightning.network/
- 'ChatGPT': https://help.openai.com/en/articles/12677804
- 'Docker': https://hub.docker.com/_/docker/
Join us on Nostr: Oshi (npub1uzt238htjzpq39dxmltlx60vxym9fetk9czz6kddq6fhvkf4z3usy9qtrh) & Permanerd (npub1zqdpzty2mshxncqqxy2078qax6mlehsxmpx5095wtxw4tpepkr0s2ce6fj)
Send an email: sayhi@youarethealgo.com
[00:00:25] Permanerd:
Hello, and welcome to the Yada Pod podcast where you are the algorithm. I am Permanerd, and I am joined here by Oshi with his musical accompaniments. How are doing, Oshi?
[00:00:38] Oshi:
I'm doing pretty good. Episode 11. Can't believe it.
[00:00:42] Permanerd:
Yes. We didn't even make a huge deal of the double digits we made last week. I know. Yeah. I was gonna say something about it, but it's it's all good. Just a number. Just a total mic drop. That's it. We're done. We got to 10? Yep. 10. We're done. I wonder what the stats are. I heard somewhere that it's something like 5%. I'm making that up completely. But some low percentage of all podcasts make it past the twentieth episode or something like that or maybe even. Yeah
[00:01:10] Oshi:
I mean I don't doubt it. It's definitely hard. Well I wouldn't say hard. It's a challenge to be consistent in it which we tend to be. I was going to maybe not be able to do it this Friday but I was able to. So keep it going. So, yeah, we we record on Fridays
[00:01:26] Permanerd:
generally about midday my time, which is the Pacific what is it called? Pacific Standard Time, which is the only legitimate time zone in the world. And, and then the show usually comes out on Saturday or what shall forever be known as Yada Day. Usually try to get it out about 06:00 in the morning my time. So 09:00 on the East Coast. Yep. This is a value for value podcast, and that incorporates you, the listeners, and the producers since you do provide quite a bit of content and direction, which is fantastic.
Mhmm. And there's several ways that you can support us, which include sending an email to say hi@youarethealgo.com or sharing this episode with anybody that you think will like it or even if they won't. Just sharing it, period. Dropping us notes on Noster. Or the way that we prefer and is easiest to keep track of is Boostagrams, which is using a podcasting two point o modern podcasting app player. That's a lot of words. That allows for you to send small amounts of Bitcoin called Sats via boost and connect a boostogram, which is a message attached to it.
And those go directly to my node that I'm running and is run I'm running helipad, organizes them nicely. And so we'll start with there with there. I start good. I talk good. The first boost a gram the first boost is eleven eleven sats row of sticks from bullish clips.
[00:03:27] Oshi:
And
[00:03:29] Permanerd:
that is for the episode number 10, Canada is why. And it says, thank you, Perma and Oshi, for your continued support for hashtag take my sats. Your listeners can Your listeners can now use referral code YADA, and that is capital y, capital A, capital T, capital A again, when signing up and receive a free month of the pleb plan. Cool. It's not automated at the moment, so please give me at least twenty one hours to respond and get you set up. Support yourself and Bitcoin by selling stuff for Sats, and support the Yotta Boys by letting me know they sent you. The building will continue until Sats are the standards.
And then it has the website, which is TakeMySats.
[00:04:20] Oshi:
Nice. Bullish.
[00:04:21] Permanerd:
Love it. Coming through. I mean, that's that's cool. He's a he's a true builder, man. He really is. I love it. That was like Pablo Pablo you remember Pablo That's what Hey, man. No. Speaking of Colombia. No.
[00:04:39] Oshi:
The oh, Pablo. I haven't seen him that much on Nostril. Oh, yes. I do remember Pablo. He made a he made a few things. He was making I forgot the name of that one client.
[00:04:50] Permanerd:
Yeah. He's been He made one that was an Instagram type of
[00:04:54] Oshi:
Exactly. I was trying to think of the name of that.
[00:04:57] Permanerd:
It's blanking on me. Yeah. Can't remember either. But that's I think bullish has taken his spot as far as just pumping out stuff. Like, fantastic. Yeah. I think so too. So thanks, Polish. Somebody sign up for that. I'd like to see the the YADA referral
[00:05:14] Oshi:
code being Yeah. Me too.
[00:05:18] Permanerd:
The next the next boost is from bullish again. Bullish clicks 99¢, and it says smash the boost button. How about that?
[00:05:28] Oshi:
Smash it.
[00:05:29] Permanerd:
Smash it. I mean, that was all caps. And, I mean, he really wants that message out there. All caps. No brakes. The next boost is 99 sats from Forest Hoddle. And it says, thanks for coming out to the Bitcoin Valley Bitcoin meetup. It was perfect that someone who sells things for bit coin came to the one where we are teaching people how to pay for things with bitcoin.
[00:05:58] Oshi:
Oh, cool. That's from the meetup you went to last week. Right? That is. Yes.
[00:06:02] Permanerd:
Nice. That's awesome. Yeah. So that's Forrest Forrest. Thank you, sir. It was so much fun. I really did have a good time up there. There's another one set for July 3, think, but that might have changed. So if you're in the Vancouver North Vancouver Island area, Mid Vancouver Island area, look up the Comox Valley Bitcoin meetup, and, maybe we'll see you there. The next boost is also 99 sats from Wedge Social, which is Dan Wedge, I believe, and a fellow Canadian resident. And it says HI SOP spelled h I dash s o p or or HI SOP, h y s dash o p, which I I guess we brought up Hysopp, anise Hysopp probably, which is a a very fragrant flower smells or a plant.
It has that anise flavor and smell to it. Oh. So it could be an op. At this point in time, I wouldn't rule out anything being an op. So and the next one is $10.10 33 sats from our good friend Jim Seifert. It says another great episode, guys. Keep on keeping on. Hashtag permaculture shows us abundance occurs on the edges where systems meet. I think Bitcoin is an excellent example of the convergence of energy, money, and technology systems. Hey. He's back with the hashtags. Hashtag s m I j. Hashtag zapped. Hashtag grow nostril.
Love it. I agree. Thanks, Jim. Agree. Yeah. Absolutely. That we'll get into the the edge effect at some point too. But just know that the edge is where there's more biodiversity
[00:07:58] Oshi:
in the edge than anywhere else, whether that's the edge of a pond, the edge of a forest. Yeah. It's to be said about life in general. Good things are be are to be found on the fringes. Right? And
[00:08:13] Permanerd:
oh, this has been a I wonder if 99 is a 100 minus one for some fee somewhere. But this is a new a new booster, and it's 99 sats from Agichote, a g I c h o o t e at fountain dot f m. And I think you're gonna like this one. It says, hello from Lithuania.
[00:08:37] Oshi:
What? Hell yeah. Cool. Yeah, man.
[00:08:42] Permanerd:
Finally, somebody took us up on on sending us a message from one of the the smaller countries with the the few listeners. So that's awesome. Thanks, Agi And if I didn't say that right, let me know how to pronounce it. Lithuania. Alright. Representing Eastern Bloc. I think that's an Eastern Bloc country. Would that be considered? I would say so. Yeah. I think it's former former Soviet Union. Lithuania? Maybe. I think you're right. Alright. Let us know that too. We need a a little history lesson on Lithuania.
And then four twenty sats from undisciplined. Ho ho. Very consistent. And thank you, undisciplined. And it says feedback. The guitar riffing is fantastic.
[00:09:34] Oshi:
Ho ho.
[00:09:38] Permanerd:
I agree. A 100% undisciplined.
[00:09:40] Oshi:
Thanks, dude. It's fun.
[00:09:47] Permanerd:
Alright. The next one is from our friend Rev Hoddle with 318 sats. And it says the permaculture principle, integrate rather than segregate, is one of the key principles to consider when applying the nine forms of capital concepts. The name of the game is spending time efficiently, so the goal is to build multiple forms of capital simultaneously with each expenditure of time. Integrating systems together is a great way because each expenditure of time to accomplish multiple interactions simultaneous. Noster exemplifies this in many ways. It lends itself to being more so integrated rather than segregated.
And I think I butchered that a little bit, but I can get the point. Yeah. Makes sense to me. This is where diversification is a good thing. Yeah. Well, there's not very
[00:10:36] Oshi:
many places that it's not when it comes to systems, I guess. Yeah. I mean, some people argue about in finance about being too diversified, you know, but that's why I'm Bitcoin only.
[00:10:48] Permanerd:
Yes. Make it easy. Yep. And then we got one from Ivor Tola, 500 Sats. And he says more fun than a tax audit. High praise. High praise coming from an accountant. I'll take it. And then Eric f j sent us another row of sticks, one one one one. It said, great episode. The progress of this show from episode one is incredible. Keep rocking.
[00:11:23] Oshi:
Heck yeah. Cool. That means a lot. He's got a good podcast.
[00:11:30] Permanerd:
Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:11:31] Oshi:
Which actually I'll be going on tomorrow now that I just remembered.
[00:11:35] Permanerd:
Really?
[00:11:36] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. They invited me on. Him and Sync. So, yeah, it should be fun. They asked me to bring the guitar as well.
[00:11:43] Permanerd:
Oh, boy. I feel like you're cheating on me a bit.
[00:11:46] Oshi:
I knew you were gonna say that.
[00:11:51] Permanerd:
You're a guitar slut.
[00:11:53] Oshi:
It's
[00:11:57] Permanerd:
all good fun. I did go back and listen to episode one. Oh, I haven't listened to What was the name of that one? Oh, something that I think I took the the Pod Home FM, one of the ones that they had had recommended. And so number one is Decentralize Everything, Our Yada Origin Story.
[00:12:18] Oshi:
The origin story. Yeah. Course.
[00:12:23] Permanerd:
So thank you, Eric. Good luck with us sharing your podcast.
[00:12:27] Oshi:
Yeah. Thank you.
[00:12:30] Permanerd:
And then there's another one actually from number nine, planting an orchestra, which is also from Eric FJ, and that's one two three four sat. And it says build, ship, zap, clench, repeat. Appreciate you guys. On NIP 99, marketplaces don't really pull from each other, rather we all push marketplace events to relays, so anyone can view the open market however they'd like. Conduit is just one lens. Plebian, Shopster, Heisa, and soon takemysats2.com, and more are all their own perspectives on a shared pool of product listings and related Nostril events. Similar to how Domus, Nostuer, Wiss, Primal, etcetera, are all lenses on the same shared constellation of Noster social events.
Hashtag hashtag. Eric's a smart guy. Yeah, man. I I sometimes I read what people write, and I just wish I was that smart. Like, I just just the way that that people can put words together in the form of a sentence. It's called syntax. I envied. So that is all the boost that we received. Thank you, everybody. And if you do send a boost in, we will read it and, yeah, and appreciate it immensely. Another thing we do every episode is review the stats, the analytics from the show, which are put out tightly and nicely by Pod Home FM.
And, hopefully, we'll be able to eventually have these stats on a website too, which is what the local bitcoiners I think it's local bitcoiners.com, actually. And they have all their stats that are nicely represented on their website. And Yeah. So the last episode, number 10, Canada is why, we've got 633 downloads.
[00:14:44] Oshi:
What?
[00:14:45] Permanerd:
Wow. That's more than the other one. Yes. It's a very it is our our best oh, yeah. It's our best one week output. Very far. Glad that was on number 10. Yeah. Well, I mean, once you start getting to double digits, people start taking you seriously. It's like, oh, these guys are for real. These guys are legit. Podcasting OGs.
[00:15:10] Oshi:
Yeah. Must be the new strings or something.
[00:15:13] Permanerd:
I noticed there is something different. Did you get a haircut as well?
[00:15:19] Oshi:
No. I'm letting it grow out. Okay.
[00:15:22] Permanerd:
So there yeah. 633 downloads so far for that one. And then the next one, number nine, was 709 and then 714. And still the highest with 812 downloads is number four, Abominable Farewell. Abominable. Which is great because we're getting a lot of play out of that word. Maybe not even in the show, but whatever we talk before and after. And Apple Podcast and and Domus are still dominating at 4039% for the players. And we've got oh, man. Okay. We've got four new one downloads at the bottom of the list. Oh. Who we got? Let's see. Did we do Saudi Arabia already? I think we did that one last week. I think that was already there. I don't think so. Okay. So Saudi Arabia and then Brunei.
Brunei? Yeah. Let's see some of those sats Brunei. Wonder if Show us your proof of location. Yeah. I wonder if that's the sultan of Brunei. That'd be cool. And then we've got another African country represented, Cameroon. Cool. Sent us a message. And a country where I've spent a bit of time, Malaysia. Nice. I think one of don't take this the wrong way, Malaysia, but one of the worst meals I've ever had was in Malaysia. And that was just because of that was me though. Like, it was I went into a a market, this local market, and asked the vendor what the most popular food was. And so he gave me this this curry, and it was more of a soup. And then I and then I went to another guy and got a sugar cane juice.
And I sat down, and it turns out that the the most popular food is called laksa. And it's this it basically smells like fish sauce, and it tastes like fish sauce. And fish sauce, I don't mind if it's in another curry, if it's a dash for saltiness, but this was just a straight fermented fish soup. Oh. And I I couldn't do it. And then and then the sugarcane juice was exactly how it sounds. It just That's a weird combo. Oh, it just yeah. It was dumb. But there's so much good food in Malaysia
[00:17:57] Oshi:
Oh, yeah. As well. I believe it. And
[00:18:01] Permanerd:
then the last thing that we'll do for the stats is check out the Jar.
[00:18:07] Oshi:
Oh, let's go.
[00:18:10] Permanerd:
Episode 10. And the jar for any new listeners is just a a way that we can be impeccable with our word and try to eliminate filler words and just be be a bit more smartly like Eric FJ. Episode 10. This is nuts. And I'd I I might have to run this one again. Oshi with 3,145 words, one filler it says. What? I don't believe that for a second. Which is point zero three and that's zero ums and one like.
[00:18:49] Oshi:
No. I definitely recall using at least three likes. Yeah. I'll have to check the
[00:18:55] Permanerd:
file. We'll check the tape on that one. Yeah. We're gonna go to the tape. And then I more than doubled your words at 6,930. That was with 22 fillers, which is a point 32%. And that is three ums and 19 likes. 19. Woo. Yeah which is by Pretty far. That's like the most I've ever had.
[00:19:24] Oshi:
Wow. Maybe maybe it switched ours up. Maybe I had the 19. Maybe I marked the no. I I mean,
[00:19:31] Permanerd:
I use ChatGPT to write this script and create a Docker container, so there's no way that it could be wrong. There's no way. ChatGPT is never wrong. It's actually really, really good, especially, 5.5. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the one.
[00:19:47] Oshi:
Yeah. Never wrong.
[00:19:50] Permanerd:
And so what we're gonna do as soon as we get this set up as well, we've got so many things, is to we're gonna be putting in 21 sats per per word that is a filler word from the beginning of the show. So the the running total is Oshi owes 239, and I owe a 196. Okay. That's It's accumulative. Numbers. No. Well, that's that's total filler. So times that by 20, which is not something I'm gonna do right now. And that, my friends, are the stats and the boost and everything else. So thank you for everybody who's listening.
And now it's time for story time. Story time. What do we got? What do we got today? Well, I remember you talking about how you were a hero and that not all heroes wear capes and other things.
[00:20:52] Oshi:
Yeah true. Yeah. What was it? Yesterday. Yesterday evening. It was raining here quite a bit. There's a lot of tree debris down and I was out on a walk walking back home and I happened to look down on the sidewalk. It was kind of like a woodsy area. I was walking and I looked down and I wasn't sure what I was looking at for a second because I thought honestly it was a piece of dog poop or a leaf. And it turned out it was this little baby bird. I think it was a wren. And it might have gotten knocked out of the nest or something because it was like kind of windy and stuff. So I picked it up, brought it back home, put it in like a little blanket and let it rest for the night here at home and brought it back to where I found it and it just flew away. So, you know, it it might have been fine where it was yesterday, but I just felt like I I don't know. I needed to secure it for the night because who knows what would have gotten it.
Did my good part, good deed. So glad to see it fly away at least. Nice.
[00:21:52] Permanerd:
Wren in trouble, call Oshi.
[00:21:55] Oshi:
Oh. That's this that's the episode title. When in trouble. Actually, I said Wren, but That's what I meant.
[00:22:07] Permanerd:
Nice. Yeah. That's, we've got a bird's nest right outside our front door. I've got a video camera on it or a security camera on it, but I haven't done anything with the video. But they're, I sent a picture on on Noster. They're they're pretty cute. They look like Fraggle Rock characters at this point.
[00:22:25] Oshi:
That's really funny. Yeah. I did the same thing before years ago with a what was it? Some sort of what is his name? It was some kind of woodpecker. Saved him too. Her too. I don't know if it's a boy or girl, but I love animals, man. I do too except when they're eating my garden. Yeah. You know, that's a pain. I'll talk about that a little bit later too. My
[00:22:47] Permanerd:
story involves shipping and the the fun fiat world of package shipping. Oh, let's hear it. I had sent a package to Fulu, and it ended up in a completely different city in a completely different state. Or that was the last place it was tracked by Canada Post. Because what happens is Canadian Post, I I don't know what they do. I think they might just take the packages right to the the border, like, just to the line and then just kick them all over. And then then the US post office has to pick them up and then they do their best, I guess, delivering them.
And and so it was it was weeks and weeks before or and he still hadn't received the package, and so I packaged up another one and shipped it out. And so then I got a message saying that that they both arrived on the same day.
[00:23:45] Oshi:
No way. Yep. That's crazy. That is pretty crazy.
[00:23:49] Permanerd:
So then God. I had I had put in a ticket with Canada Post, and then they wanted his information. And I sent him was like, I'm not gonna just give you somebody's information. Give them his NPUB. Yeah. Exactly. There you go. Here's a way to get ahold of him. That would've been really funny. But then he told me that and then he told me that he that they had both arrived. So I figured Canada Post probably wouldn't do anything anyway, so just gonna eat eat all that. He said he was enjoying it all, so that's all that really matters. Well, yeah. At least now you know next time to,
[00:24:29] Oshi:
wait a longer time.
[00:24:32] Permanerd:
Yeah. I guess. But then I don't want him to be waiting either. Like, it's kinda. Yeah. I mean, I would rather eat a bunch of costs than than have somebody have a bad experience with a What other shipping options do you have? Or I've got zero, man. Like, if there's several that I could use except that most of what I'm shipping is food, and Mhmm. Nobody will ship food anymore. I can't use UPS. I can't use FedEx. I can't use anything. Canada Post is the only one that lets it go through. Really? That's crazy. You don't have DHL or anything? Yeah. But none of it will go. Like, the none it it was I think it was about the time where they started putting the tariffs on in a big way that all of these things stop sell or maybe it was before that. I don't know. But they stopped shipping food products across the border. That's really annoying.
It's pretty annoying because, I mean I like supporting Canada Post but I also like not having to pay the most expensive shipping out of anyone.
[00:25:38] Oshi:
Mhmm. Yeah for sure. I mean it's expensive for me too whenever I ship to Canada or Europe. It's it's it's crazy expensive for sure. It's like maybe $30 to ship to Canada from from where I am. Yes. And then
[00:25:55] Permanerd:
usually get dinged on the here as well. That's what all the ones I've gotten, like the shipping shipping has been paid and then there'll be some sort of import tax
[00:26:06] Oshi:
that Oh, by the way, you want your thing?
[00:26:09] Permanerd:
Pay up. Yeah. Exactly. Well, it's pretty funny. Last time it was maybe it was who was it? I can't remember. I got a shipment from somebody because I don't get many shipments. But there's some somebody in the guy's I think it's FedEx, but the guy's mobile payment device Mhmm. Was not working. And so I told him I'd pay online, and then I didn't. And then they started harassing me, so I did.
[00:26:39] Oshi:
Oh, man.
[00:26:40] Permanerd:
And then the only other thing I've got is shipping to Minnesota. Daniel from Minnesota, I really need to get in touch with you. I still have the package that I just need. Oh, from last week? Well, it's been it's been maybe three weeks now, and I just cannot get ahold of of Daniel. So if anybody knows Daniel in Minnesota, let him know that Permanent is looking for him. If if there's a Daniel in Minnesota Reach me. The land of 10,000 lakes, man. I'd I'd really like to get this pack it's all packaged up. I just need some some shipping clarifications.
[00:27:19] Oshi:
Did you did you make a post on Noster about it? I did. I sent him a couple emails from different email
[00:27:25] Permanerd:
accounts. So if anybody knows Daniel. Come on, Daniel. It's a yeah. I'm I'm to get him the order, but I'm not gonna go through the the shipping nonsense that I went through before when I had the correct app. Yeah. That's a whole rigmarole.
[00:27:45] Oshi:
I wouldn't
[00:27:49] Permanerd:
Hi. Do you have anything else that happened in the last week that you care to I
[00:27:55] Oshi:
guess that leads into maybe a town square here. Our friend Pam, she actually sent me some of her homemade handmade deodorants. No. I don't smell. I don't stink. That's not what I know. Out there. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. But but it does smell really good, the stuff that she sent me. She sent me a lavender one and then she's got what is this one? It doesn't say the variant of it but the ingredients of the lavender one. What we got here? Extra organic extra virgin olive oil, arrowroot powder, baking soda, beeswax, and essential oils. This one smells great.
This other one here has got grass fed beef tallow, organic coconut oil, baking soda, arrowroot powder, and again essential oils. Both of these are really great. Little jars so basically you just kinda put your finger in it, give it a swipe, wipe it pits and it lasts actually a pretty long time. I was surprised. Pretty good stuff. Definitely gonna, you know, try it on every day. Give her some intel, some feedback about how to maybe make it better. It's always fun to do that. She also sent me some of her homegrown roasted walnuts which is really cool. So shout out to Pam. Thank you so much. Sounds like a bit of a walnut butter to me. We'll see. We'll see. We'll we'll test batch. It could be cool.
[00:29:22] Permanerd:
So the town square which we are now residing in presiding in? Residing. Pres We're in. We're in it now. Is where we just, like to shout out a Bitcoin business, ideally a Bitcoin Noster combo business.
[00:29:45] Oshi:
Mhmm. This one's called Sats Pit. And they are available
[00:29:50] Permanerd:
on takemysats.oh,.com? Under Noster value pack, and they have a large value bundle and the sats pit under there. And make sure you use the promo code YADA when checkout. I don't even know if you can. If not, shoot them a note on Nasto. Shoot them an email. Say that that we value them very much.
[00:30:18] Oshi:
Oh, I see the variant name for this other one here. Brazilian orange and cedarwood. Pretty pretty good, man. It smells great. I love cedarwood. Yeah. It's so good. Honestly, you could probably just use this as some sort of body scent clone thing lotion. You don't have to use it for your pits. But yeah. Really, really awesome stuff. Thank you, Pam.
[00:30:40] Permanerd:
Oh, and we got your email as well. Thank you. Atsayhi@youarethealgo.com. And I would I would take you up on your offer for sure. So let me know what or I'll I'll hit you up on Noster,
[00:30:55] Oshi:
and I look forward to it. Yeah. What is it? One of those bundle packs that
[00:30:59] Permanerd:
our friend Alice is doing? Yeah. The the email is from both of them. So I think they are I think they're collaborative in this Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what they're doing together is Noster value bag. Noster bundles. Mhmm. Which is which is awesome. I mean, it's such a such a good idea. Again, it's something that I'd like to do up here but it's the the shipping thing. Yeah. Still working on it. Well,
[00:31:22] Oshi:
maybe there's something because I do this with Bitcoin Beans is he sends me stuff and then whenever he gets an order, I ship it out for him. He pays me a little, you know, little cut for packing it. So yeah. Just throwing that out there. I don't know how that would work for for that but Yep. Anybody interested,
[00:31:40] Permanerd:
hit me up. Send a boost to the show. We'll discuss it. Alright. Leaving the town square, we're going to move out more towards the edge of this property that we're calling a podcast.
[00:32:00] Oshi:
Where are we going? We're gonna go to
[00:32:03] Permanerd:
the problem is the solution. Oh, more permaculture stuff? Well, this will be a bit that is where I first heard of this, and I think it is a a permaculture centric or maybe it started from permaculture. Just that that saying in general, the the problem is the solution. Mhmm. And that just means that for every problem, you can use that problem as a solution. Like, you have slugs in your garden, you don't have a slug problem. You have a you have a lack of ducks. Right? So then you get the ducks, and now you've got eggs or meat or both, and just things like that. And so the the reason I thought about I I don't know. I tried to think it most problems I tried to think in this this perspective.
And the reason I was thinking about it this week was that a couple days ago, I went and did a property walk, and I've got this little area that had a a a very small fig tree and then three apple trees, kind of the start of a food forest. And the apple trees well, and the fig tree just had actually, no. I had fixed the fig tree already, but the apple trees had bamboo poles, maybe three quarter inch bamboo poles, and and then a plastic mesh to keep the deer out. And that was working, but then I'm pretty sure it was a bear decided that it wanted to eat the apple trees.
And the I mean, the apples aren't even that big. Right? The apples are yeah. They're they're small. They're just starting out.
[00:33:38] Oshi:
And so crabapples?
[00:33:39] Permanerd:
Well, yeah. I mean, they're the size of a crabapple. They will get bigger, but it's just so early in the season that they're not they're not too big around here yet. Oh, I see. And it ate the it ate leaves, the apples that were on the tree, and then just left a a pretty big mess. And one of the trees, which is a Gravenstein, unfortunately, it snapped off the tree at the ground level. And so that was pretty disappointing, but the problem is a solution. And I've had a I like to just buy trees and then let them sit and try to find places for them and never have the time to plant them. And so I have a a fig tree that's been sitting in the garden in a pot for several weeks now. And I wasn't sure where I was gonna put it, And then that gravenstein being broken opened up that area, and so then I planted the fig and started a a guild around it with a comfrey and some strawberries and some some beans and chives.
And so it was just a a way to take that loss and and generate something
[00:34:54] Oshi:
new from that area. Yeah. You just gotta flow with it. That's my story. I like it. Send some pictures. I'm I'm curious to see more of like your garden and stuff.
[00:35:04] Permanerd:
Well, you should check Nostril. You should follow me on Nostril. I do. Sometimes I don't see some people's
[00:35:11] Oshi:
notes for some reason. I don't know if that has anything to do with the relays or what. But Yeah. I'll I'll send you some pictures on on key. Yeah. Yeah. Send them. I'm curious. What kind of bears do you guys have up there? Black bears. In this area, up island, there's
[00:35:30] Permanerd:
a growing population of grizzly. Oh, wow. Yeah.
[00:35:34] Oshi:
When I spent some time in New Jersey, I saw maybe I saw a few black bears. Actually there was this one time I was out in the woods just by myself actually and I looked up in the tree and there was this family. It was a mama and three of her little cubs just climbing down the tree. I was maybe I don't know, 40 feet away. It was my first time ever seeing a bear in the wild. It was pretty surreal. It was really cool though. Gotta be careful.
[00:36:00] Permanerd:
Yeah. There are tons of black bears. I've got some I've got some bear stories as well. We'll save that for another time. Bear
[00:36:08] Oshi:
stories. Yeah. Have that as a segment. Unbearable.
[00:36:13] Permanerd:
If we keep moving up keep moving out in this concentric circles from from there, we end up in permaculture corner.
[00:36:23] Oshi:
Oh, dive into another principle?
[00:36:25] Permanerd:
Yeah. Let's do it. Let's go. Last week, we did the first principle, which is observe and interact. And this week, I wanted to do the second principle because numbers are good, which is catch and store energy. And that's exactly how it sounds. It is capturing resources when they're abundant and then saving them to be able to use at a future time. And that includes capturing sunlight, water, fertility in the soil, seeds, firewood, and just anything else that you can that you can capture. So it's the idea would be harvesting rainwater, you know, preserving food, saving seeds, and generating renewable energy.
So creating reserves for a future time. And one of the things that is the most important while growing is having carbon in the ground. And that's one of the things that bothers me so much about about this climate change narrative and, oh, there's too much carbon. You know, it started off as carbon dioxide, and then they just cut it down to carbon. And you carbon is one of the most beneficial things within a soil. So it's saying that we need to cut back on carbon is just a mis nomer, and I think the only carbon they want to cut back on is you. You are the carbon. But You are the problem. Yeah.
With every 1% of increase in carbon matter in a one acre plot of land, your storage capacity I mean, depending on the soil, but your your storage capacity increases by about 25,000 gallons, which is roughly 475 rain barrels. So that's 1% of carbon. And so you can try to capture as much water and store as much water as you want, but you'll never be able to store it as efficiently or at the capacity of the soil. So it makes it crucial to increase the soil health in order to capture the water within the soil. And some of the ways to I mean, what you're looking to do is capture carbon, protect carbon, and then and then make sure that it's stored properly, and then you can also accelerate that. So the couple things with the capturing the carbon is keeping living roots year round in your soil, right, which includes cover crops, perennials, and trees and shrubs.
Because when unless it has roots, the soil doesn't survive. Mhmm. And then you can protect it with mulch, you know, not tilling. And then if you do cut plants down, instead of pulling out the roots, leaving the roots in the ground because now they're going to break down and and be beneficial to the the soil. And then and then applying compost, adding biochar, and then any type of other carbon amendments. And then if you really wanna accelerate the carbon, then you can work with managed grazing and increasing the plant diversity.
And so what your plants are taking that c o two, which is carbon dioxide, and turning it into sugars, which are being transferred to the roots, which are then being eaten by the microbes, and then the microbes are producing the carbon. Or when they when they die, you know, their all their their cell structure and whatnot is added to the soil. Mhmm. So cover crops, mulching, biochar, just get as much carbon into the ground as you can, and then that's going to cut back on you know, the one one of the benefits of a of a food forest or, you know, permaculture design is is taking the work out of out of gardening or growing plants.
And one of the biggest things that you have to worry about is watering. And so if you can create proper soil, then that's going to cut back or eliminate the need for external water. You know, have them go around with a water can or a hose or anything else.
[00:41:15] Oshi:
Mhmm. How important does mushroom fungal mycelial networks kind of come into play in all of this? Do you do you know anything about that kind of stuff? Yeah. I think we talked about this a couple episodes ago, but, yeah, that's
[00:41:31] Permanerd:
mycelium is is crucial for plant health and soil soil health. And that's when you you know that you're doing pretty well on the carbon front is, you know, mycelium grows on carbon. You know, if you Mhmm. Rotting wood Yep. The cardboard, stuff like that. And so if there's it it's kinda twofold or maybe I mean, it's actually many more than that. But with the the benefits of the the mushrooms and the mycelium is it it works in has a symbiotic relationship with the roots of plants and trees and Mhmm. Can and benefit them by providing minerals and whatever type of of nutrients that they need. And then the plants or the trees will produce an enzyme which feeds ends up feeding the mycelium.
And and it's also, you know, breaking down that carbon and producing a food source as well. So yeah. I mean I in my opinion mycelium is I mean they all work together but it's one of the most important layers in a forest if not the most important layer in the forest. Yeah.
[00:42:45] Oshi:
That's that's kinda where my mind goes. It's kind of the unsung hero that people don't really tend to think about too much. You mentioned something about preserving for a later time. It made me think about there's a part of the mushroom network, I can't remember the scientific name of it but it's the truffle. It kind of looks like a little rock of the mycelium and from what I understand about how this part of the mushroom works is it kind of preserves its energy, its growth production for spreading more mycelium growth and if the conditions aren't met for that it kind of like preserves itself for a later time. It's like, it kind of looks like a little stone.
It's really cool. I was only reading about this not too long ago but I thought it was just an interesting little thing about how things preserve themselves for a later time. So it's kind of important to touch on that for mushroom network growth. I find it really interesting.
[00:43:46] Permanerd:
Yeah. Cool. I don't know. I didn't know about that with with mushrooms. I mean, I guess it makes sense. You know, there's other seeds and things like that that require or, you know, it can stay dormant for Yep. Dozens of years, if not hundreds of years, and then sprout only after a forest fire or whatever the conditions are met that they require. Mhmm. There's also bacteria that do that where they will create a a shell type of I don't even know what it is, but a shell around them. And so you can say you've got I think it's botulism maybe. No. Not botulism. I I can't remember. But if you have a a some ground beef that has whatever type of bacteria this is, you can put it in the freezer.
And unless it gets to a certain ridiculous temperature, it can stay dormant until it heats back up again. And so, I mean, that's nature is amazing. It finds ways to persevere. Yeah. No. It's really cool. Sweet. So, yeah, that was hopefully, was interesting enough to to pique people's interest and maybe look into it a little bit further. If you have any questions, certainly reach out. How are you doing on the oshigood.us front?
[00:45:18] Oshi:
Things have been kinda slowly lately. I'm not sure why other than maybe because of just the Bitcoin market and people aren't feeling too I don't I really don't know what it is. It's been slow though to be honest but I've had some other custom orders come in from the website standpoint. Not many has come in but I've gotten DMs and stuff for like larger custom orders, which is fine. But it's been slow. It's been slow. I was I was talking to Bitcoin Beans about this the other day, but, you know, it is what it is hanging in. I haven't really added anything new to the website.
Other than the preorders for the t shirts that I was doing a couple weeks ago. Those should be delivered to people or should be close anyways. So check your emails, tracking all that jazz.
[00:46:15] Permanerd:
Post some pictures. Post some pictures of the t shirts too when you're wearing them. Yeah, yeah definitely.
[00:46:23] Oshi:
The design itself originated in some like late night doodle I was doing and I was just thinking this would be a cool t shirt. And so I just did it and sold a few which was really cool. So yeah, if you guys get them, take some pictures. I'd be curious to see. Use a hashtag Yada. Hashtag Yada.
[00:46:43] Permanerd:
Yeah. It's the trying to come up with the more diversity as well. That's the one of the problems that I have with or just one of the challenges, I guess, of of business is if, you know, sales aren't going well, then do you do you pivot? I mean, you have to eventually pivot if things aren't going really well or things are really not going well. Words are hard. And, you know, do you create a new product and and get interest back in that way? Or is it more marketing? You know, like there's there's so many different Yeah. Routes to take. Yeah. There is.
[00:47:25] Oshi:
But the way I think about this is that, you know, the what I make looking at, I don't know, maybe a few months ago or before this call it a bear market. It's not really a bear market but sales were fine, know. But now I don't really want to pivot. There's nothing really for me to pivot to other than to just keep doing what I'm doing. And you know, like I said, not a lot of orders have come through the website but I keep getting DMs from people requesting custom orders for things which is cool. I definitely appreciate that.
But no, don't really think about adding new products per se. I just kinda just keep consistent and keep my head down and just keep, you know, sharing stuff if I have something to share. I don't really stress on it too much. But it really is just trying to just stay consistent and it's not gonna be roses every month. It is what it is. I kind of expected this to come. Maybe that's why because of my own expectations. Right. But So maybe maybe I manifested it. So I should Well things are coming around. Things are coming around. Orders are starting to come through but the past, I don't week or two it was just kind of sleepy out there. But this is the other thing is that I'm Noster and Bitcoin only. I'm not on X, I'm not on Facebook, I'm not you know doing all that stuff.
You know I I chose the hard path but I think it's a cool and I don't know novel path to go so that was my own choosing from day one. So I I signed up for this so I better shut the f up and just be consistent with Yeah.
[00:49:16] Permanerd:
Yeah. Me too. I mean, it's the same with Noster and Bitcoin. And, I mean, I'm I'm I'm happy. I you know, there's Yeah. We could definitely both probably be making a lot more sales and then dealing with the fiat world and the nonsense that comes with Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and all that. But it's for me anyway, it's just not it's not worth the the brain cells that will just be annihilated. I mean, going to those Yeah. Abominable sites. Mhmm.
[00:49:51] Oshi:
Yeah. It's more of just like an ethical and moral thing. This is your main gig then by all means do branch out and make as much income as you can. But if it's like your kind of side thing as in you know how I'm doing it now, I really try to just promote Bitcoin and Nostril and try to be an example for for what I believe in. And it turns out it was a good decision. I'm getting a lot of feedback from people. People asking questions about my shop and website and stuff actually as of recent again, which is really cool. So it's it's seen as a beacon of inspiration for this kind of thing to show that it is a proof of concept and it is working and it does work.
I don't know that that means the world to me. I think it's so cool and I mentioned it before but I always think it's so funny if I were to share with someone what I do. It's like yeah I sell huddle butter on Noster for Bitcoin. It's like people aren't gonna understand one of those words. Maybe the word Yeah. Oh. Yeah so it's cool. Again it's a hard path but it's fun though too. And it's rewarding. I've made probably to 800 orders now just to be transparent. Like that's crazy. All Noster and Bitcoin only like that's freaking cool.
So thank you to everybody that's been along this journey from day one and it just means a lot. It's super cool. Yeah. That's amazing. And it's the It is. It's the community that that we are part of. Know? It's the
[00:51:37] Permanerd:
is it growing? Is it retracting? I mean, there's a lot of talk that Noster's dead blah blah blah.
[00:51:44] Oshi:
Yeah. Same with Bitcoin. Right? Yeah. Exactly. It's going to zero. Yeah. So it's like it's the same thing. I mean, they're both interconnected because Noster is on Bitcoin and Bitcoin is, I don't know has superior design than I don't know anything else in the monetary system. Things are gonna get hard. Things are gonna go down. Things are gonna go up but you know, volatility is life. You know? So you just gotta roll with it.
[00:52:11] Permanerd:
That's the Keep it on. That's the edge effect as well. Know, the Noster and and Bitcoin are both on the edge at this point. And that's where there's so much growth happening. Mhmm. You know, that's things are flourishing on the edge, and I don't think that I would want to be anywhere else at this point. And for me, anyway, it feels like it feels like I'm growing as a person through this. And if if that requires or if that is the benefit of being part of something that is more fringe and isn't, you know, doesn't consist of millions and millions of people, then great. Mhmm. You know, that that's the small community feel, that small community where I think at this point if I was in real trouble and I needed help, I think I could probably reach out and I would imagine that you would be the same and there would be people willing to help that we've never met before.
[00:53:13] Oshi:
Yeah. No I completely agree. I've made so many amazing connections just Don Noster and through Bitcoin space and things like that. And just to make a point on the whole marketing thing, you know you're not trying to market to everybody. You're trying to have 50 solid customers that support you for what you do. And if you can get those 50 customers to repeat customers to just be there, you're fine. You're gonna sustain. They're gonna come back. They're gonna keep buying stuff from you. They'll tell their friends so you're not trying to reach everybody. I keep trying to remind my friends and stuff and myself for that matter to not be so worried about trying to get a bigger reach but try to find those that are, I don't know, respectful for what you do and what you provided value wise or unique wise because when people dispense with their Sats they want to buy something of quality.
So it's just, it's honestly an honor to be given Sats for the things that we make and that it, I find it so cool. I find it so cool. Me too. And I'm not a a sales expert
[00:54:26] Permanerd:
Me either. And I'm not even that smart, but one of the things that I know is that the easiest sale that you're going to have and that the the best possible way to get a new customer is word-of-mouth. Mhmm. And when when you're in sales and somebody comes in and they say, you know, Daniel from Minnesota recommended you or, you know, gave his seal of approval on this, then, you know, that's that's the quickest and probably the most loyal customers that you can get. And so Yeah. That's where instead of, you know, waiting six months to see if a package arrives, you're gonna package up a new one and just send it and consequences be damned as far as, you know, what's going to happen with that lost package. And I mean, we're not talking millions of dollars or anything, but I think it's just the point of making sure that I I mean, it's hard for me to even call people that make orders customers because most of them, I would almost consider friends. And whether that's sad or just the state of my life at this point, But I definitely have a better connection with so many people that I've never met than a lot of the people that I know in real life. Same. Yeah. It's a great point.
[00:55:52] Oshi:
I correct myself on that. Not so much customers, they're more friends at this point. I think of literally 10 on the top of my mind that have just been repeat and have shared it with their family and their friends and it's so cool. It just never gets old. I'll never take this for granted because it is a lot of work doing this stuff and especially both of us working in food. I think food is one of the most, I don't know, it gives a great experience. Not everybody can experience a piece of art like a book or something. They can't eat a book but when you eat something and you just experience their, the creator's intent and something unique. So when you taste something it just hits home, it hits deeper.
[00:56:36] Permanerd:
So it's really cool working in food. It is. I mean, comes with its own challenges obviously such as Yeah. Shipping nonsense. But it yeah. I I mean, I I guess the the main point that I would try to make here is do it. If you've got something that you want to sell for Bitcoin, do it. It can be anything that you want. Right? Just put it out there. Mhmm. Take it to a local Bitcoin meetup and offer your wares. I mean, if if the one that I went to, the Valley meetup is like most of the others, which I'd imagine it is, the people are super friendly. Everyone is there for the same reasons when it comes down to it, and that is understanding that something is wrong with the economy, you know, with with the community, with just the world in general right now, and looking for solutions on how to, you know, make that one change for their life, which will make things a bit easier or bet better, make you know, just try to make the world make sense.
And they're even the ones that are there for the first time, I mean, like I was, but they're are getting their first Bitcoin, they wanna turn around and and buy something with it and just see that transaction. So grab whatever you've got, take it to a local meetup, or advertise it on Noster. Go to takemysats.com. And use the promo code Yada to get a free month, so you're you're not even out anything for there, and it's and it's posted up there. Mean, let us know. I'm I'm more than happy to expand whatever limited reach I have for people. Throw it out there. I mean, we'll mention it on here, know, just get get started.
[00:58:30] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. Send some stuff to both of us like myself, like Sats Pit here. This stuff is awesome. I always enjoy getting some samples from other merchants and stuff and I always shout them out. I always,
[00:58:45] Permanerd:
I just love supporting it. Love seeing more of this stuff. So you gotta if you got it, ship it. Yeah. Exactly. Send it up here. I love seeing the moose come down with the mail down my driveway. Sweet. So go to oshigood.us and use the promo code YADA and put a smile on Oshi's face.
[00:59:13] Oshi:
Send it. Definitely. I I don't think I have too much stuff in the shop right now but next week new batch of butter. We'll be making the maple syrup huddle butter that seemed to have gone pretty quick last time but this this one will be the crunchy variant so if you guys been waiting for that one. I know there's a couple people that wanted that so we'll be making that and then I think I'll be making some regular chocolates again. The the little truffles that I make. Oh man, those are so good. But yeah, use YADA at checkout, save some SATs.
And then we you can use the code over at your website. Right? Yes. I did set that up. Nice.
[00:59:51] Permanerd:
And that's that's sats, thenumber4snacks.com. I still haven't got the ice cream sandwiches up, but I did freeze dry some yogurt sickles and some organic fudge bars, frozen fudge bars. And they're pretty tasty. So I bet. Oh. That's just like a teaser. It'll never get up there, but, hey, you know, I've got it. Hit me up. Just just throw me a message if you want it. Like, I sent some to Dawn on Noster. She wanted some, so we did a little DM deal, and I sent her some. So if I I don't know when I'm gonna get a chance to to get this done. But if you do want anything or special orders or white labeled, just, shoot me a message. Either say hi at YouAreTheAlgo or info at Permanerd or DM on Noster or any other thing on Noster, and, let's make it happen. Let's get it.
[01:00:53] Oshi:
Good one. Cool. Alright.
[01:00:55] Permanerd:
Anything else? Nope. Until next time, just remember that you are the algorithm.
Hello, and welcome to the Yada Pod podcast where you are the algorithm. I am Permanerd, and I am joined here by Oshi with his musical accompaniments. How are doing, Oshi?
[00:00:38] Oshi:
I'm doing pretty good. Episode 11. Can't believe it.
[00:00:42] Permanerd:
Yes. We didn't even make a huge deal of the double digits we made last week. I know. Yeah. I was gonna say something about it, but it's it's all good. Just a number. Just a total mic drop. That's it. We're done. We got to 10? Yep. 10. We're done. I wonder what the stats are. I heard somewhere that it's something like 5%. I'm making that up completely. But some low percentage of all podcasts make it past the twentieth episode or something like that or maybe even. Yeah
[00:01:10] Oshi:
I mean I don't doubt it. It's definitely hard. Well I wouldn't say hard. It's a challenge to be consistent in it which we tend to be. I was going to maybe not be able to do it this Friday but I was able to. So keep it going. So, yeah, we we record on Fridays
[00:01:26] Permanerd:
generally about midday my time, which is the Pacific what is it called? Pacific Standard Time, which is the only legitimate time zone in the world. And, and then the show usually comes out on Saturday or what shall forever be known as Yada Day. Usually try to get it out about 06:00 in the morning my time. So 09:00 on the East Coast. Yep. This is a value for value podcast, and that incorporates you, the listeners, and the producers since you do provide quite a bit of content and direction, which is fantastic.
Mhmm. And there's several ways that you can support us, which include sending an email to say hi@youarethealgo.com or sharing this episode with anybody that you think will like it or even if they won't. Just sharing it, period. Dropping us notes on Noster. Or the way that we prefer and is easiest to keep track of is Boostagrams, which is using a podcasting two point o modern podcasting app player. That's a lot of words. That allows for you to send small amounts of Bitcoin called Sats via boost and connect a boostogram, which is a message attached to it.
And those go directly to my node that I'm running and is run I'm running helipad, organizes them nicely. And so we'll start with there with there. I start good. I talk good. The first boost a gram the first boost is eleven eleven sats row of sticks from bullish clips.
[00:03:27] Oshi:
And
[00:03:29] Permanerd:
that is for the episode number 10, Canada is why. And it says, thank you, Perma and Oshi, for your continued support for hashtag take my sats. Your listeners can Your listeners can now use referral code YADA, and that is capital y, capital A, capital T, capital A again, when signing up and receive a free month of the pleb plan. Cool. It's not automated at the moment, so please give me at least twenty one hours to respond and get you set up. Support yourself and Bitcoin by selling stuff for Sats, and support the Yotta Boys by letting me know they sent you. The building will continue until Sats are the standards.
And then it has the website, which is TakeMySats.
[00:04:20] Oshi:
Nice. Bullish.
[00:04:21] Permanerd:
Love it. Coming through. I mean, that's that's cool. He's a he's a true builder, man. He really is. I love it. That was like Pablo Pablo you remember Pablo That's what Hey, man. No. Speaking of Colombia. No.
[00:04:39] Oshi:
The oh, Pablo. I haven't seen him that much on Nostril. Oh, yes. I do remember Pablo. He made a he made a few things. He was making I forgot the name of that one client.
[00:04:50] Permanerd:
Yeah. He's been He made one that was an Instagram type of
[00:04:54] Oshi:
Exactly. I was trying to think of the name of that.
[00:04:57] Permanerd:
It's blanking on me. Yeah. Can't remember either. But that's I think bullish has taken his spot as far as just pumping out stuff. Like, fantastic. Yeah. I think so too. So thanks, Polish. Somebody sign up for that. I'd like to see the the YADA referral
[00:05:14] Oshi:
code being Yeah. Me too.
[00:05:18] Permanerd:
The next the next boost is from bullish again. Bullish clicks 99¢, and it says smash the boost button. How about that?
[00:05:28] Oshi:
Smash it.
[00:05:29] Permanerd:
Smash it. I mean, that was all caps. And, I mean, he really wants that message out there. All caps. No brakes. The next boost is 99 sats from Forest Hoddle. And it says, thanks for coming out to the Bitcoin Valley Bitcoin meetup. It was perfect that someone who sells things for bit coin came to the one where we are teaching people how to pay for things with bitcoin.
[00:05:58] Oshi:
Oh, cool. That's from the meetup you went to last week. Right? That is. Yes.
[00:06:02] Permanerd:
Nice. That's awesome. Yeah. So that's Forrest Forrest. Thank you, sir. It was so much fun. I really did have a good time up there. There's another one set for July 3, think, but that might have changed. So if you're in the Vancouver North Vancouver Island area, Mid Vancouver Island area, look up the Comox Valley Bitcoin meetup, and, maybe we'll see you there. The next boost is also 99 sats from Wedge Social, which is Dan Wedge, I believe, and a fellow Canadian resident. And it says HI SOP spelled h I dash s o p or or HI SOP, h y s dash o p, which I I guess we brought up Hysopp, anise Hysopp probably, which is a a very fragrant flower smells or a plant.
It has that anise flavor and smell to it. Oh. So it could be an op. At this point in time, I wouldn't rule out anything being an op. So and the next one is $10.10 33 sats from our good friend Jim Seifert. It says another great episode, guys. Keep on keeping on. Hashtag permaculture shows us abundance occurs on the edges where systems meet. I think Bitcoin is an excellent example of the convergence of energy, money, and technology systems. Hey. He's back with the hashtags. Hashtag s m I j. Hashtag zapped. Hashtag grow nostril.
Love it. I agree. Thanks, Jim. Agree. Yeah. Absolutely. That we'll get into the the edge effect at some point too. But just know that the edge is where there's more biodiversity
[00:07:58] Oshi:
in the edge than anywhere else, whether that's the edge of a pond, the edge of a forest. Yeah. It's to be said about life in general. Good things are be are to be found on the fringes. Right? And
[00:08:13] Permanerd:
oh, this has been a I wonder if 99 is a 100 minus one for some fee somewhere. But this is a new a new booster, and it's 99 sats from Agichote, a g I c h o o t e at fountain dot f m. And I think you're gonna like this one. It says, hello from Lithuania.
[00:08:37] Oshi:
What? Hell yeah. Cool. Yeah, man.
[00:08:42] Permanerd:
Finally, somebody took us up on on sending us a message from one of the the smaller countries with the the few listeners. So that's awesome. Thanks, Agi And if I didn't say that right, let me know how to pronounce it. Lithuania. Alright. Representing Eastern Bloc. I think that's an Eastern Bloc country. Would that be considered? I would say so. Yeah. I think it's former former Soviet Union. Lithuania? Maybe. I think you're right. Alright. Let us know that too. We need a a little history lesson on Lithuania.
And then four twenty sats from undisciplined. Ho ho. Very consistent. And thank you, undisciplined. And it says feedback. The guitar riffing is fantastic.
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Ho ho.
[00:09:38] Permanerd:
I agree. A 100% undisciplined.
[00:09:40] Oshi:
Thanks, dude. It's fun.
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Alright. The next one is from our friend Rev Hoddle with 318 sats. And it says the permaculture principle, integrate rather than segregate, is one of the key principles to consider when applying the nine forms of capital concepts. The name of the game is spending time efficiently, so the goal is to build multiple forms of capital simultaneously with each expenditure of time. Integrating systems together is a great way because each expenditure of time to accomplish multiple interactions simultaneous. Noster exemplifies this in many ways. It lends itself to being more so integrated rather than segregated.
And I think I butchered that a little bit, but I can get the point. Yeah. Makes sense to me. This is where diversification is a good thing. Yeah. Well, there's not very
[00:10:36] Oshi:
many places that it's not when it comes to systems, I guess. Yeah. I mean, some people argue about in finance about being too diversified, you know, but that's why I'm Bitcoin only.
[00:10:48] Permanerd:
Yes. Make it easy. Yep. And then we got one from Ivor Tola, 500 Sats. And he says more fun than a tax audit. High praise. High praise coming from an accountant. I'll take it. And then Eric f j sent us another row of sticks, one one one one. It said, great episode. The progress of this show from episode one is incredible. Keep rocking.
[00:11:23] Oshi:
Heck yeah. Cool. That means a lot. He's got a good podcast.
[00:11:30] Permanerd:
Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:11:31] Oshi:
Which actually I'll be going on tomorrow now that I just remembered.
[00:11:35] Permanerd:
Really?
[00:11:36] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. They invited me on. Him and Sync. So, yeah, it should be fun. They asked me to bring the guitar as well.
[00:11:43] Permanerd:
Oh, boy. I feel like you're cheating on me a bit.
[00:11:46] Oshi:
I knew you were gonna say that.
[00:11:51] Permanerd:
You're a guitar slut.
[00:11:53] Oshi:
It's
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all good fun. I did go back and listen to episode one. Oh, I haven't listened to What was the name of that one? Oh, something that I think I took the the Pod Home FM, one of the ones that they had had recommended. And so number one is Decentralize Everything, Our Yada Origin Story.
[00:12:18] Oshi:
The origin story. Yeah. Course.
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So thank you, Eric. Good luck with us sharing your podcast.
[00:12:27] Oshi:
Yeah. Thank you.
[00:12:30] Permanerd:
And then there's another one actually from number nine, planting an orchestra, which is also from Eric FJ, and that's one two three four sat. And it says build, ship, zap, clench, repeat. Appreciate you guys. On NIP 99, marketplaces don't really pull from each other, rather we all push marketplace events to relays, so anyone can view the open market however they'd like. Conduit is just one lens. Plebian, Shopster, Heisa, and soon takemysats2.com, and more are all their own perspectives on a shared pool of product listings and related Nostril events. Similar to how Domus, Nostuer, Wiss, Primal, etcetera, are all lenses on the same shared constellation of Noster social events.
Hashtag hashtag. Eric's a smart guy. Yeah, man. I I sometimes I read what people write, and I just wish I was that smart. Like, I just just the way that that people can put words together in the form of a sentence. It's called syntax. I envied. So that is all the boost that we received. Thank you, everybody. And if you do send a boost in, we will read it and, yeah, and appreciate it immensely. Another thing we do every episode is review the stats, the analytics from the show, which are put out tightly and nicely by Pod Home FM.
And, hopefully, we'll be able to eventually have these stats on a website too, which is what the local bitcoiners I think it's local bitcoiners.com, actually. And they have all their stats that are nicely represented on their website. And Yeah. So the last episode, number 10, Canada is why, we've got 633 downloads.
[00:14:44] Oshi:
What?
[00:14:45] Permanerd:
Wow. That's more than the other one. Yes. It's a very it is our our best oh, yeah. It's our best one week output. Very far. Glad that was on number 10. Yeah. Well, I mean, once you start getting to double digits, people start taking you seriously. It's like, oh, these guys are for real. These guys are legit. Podcasting OGs.
[00:15:10] Oshi:
Yeah. Must be the new strings or something.
[00:15:13] Permanerd:
I noticed there is something different. Did you get a haircut as well?
[00:15:19] Oshi:
No. I'm letting it grow out. Okay.
[00:15:22] Permanerd:
So there yeah. 633 downloads so far for that one. And then the next one, number nine, was 709 and then 714. And still the highest with 812 downloads is number four, Abominable Farewell. Abominable. Which is great because we're getting a lot of play out of that word. Maybe not even in the show, but whatever we talk before and after. And Apple Podcast and and Domus are still dominating at 4039% for the players. And we've got oh, man. Okay. We've got four new one downloads at the bottom of the list. Oh. Who we got? Let's see. Did we do Saudi Arabia already? I think we did that one last week. I think that was already there. I don't think so. Okay. So Saudi Arabia and then Brunei.
Brunei? Yeah. Let's see some of those sats Brunei. Wonder if Show us your proof of location. Yeah. I wonder if that's the sultan of Brunei. That'd be cool. And then we've got another African country represented, Cameroon. Cool. Sent us a message. And a country where I've spent a bit of time, Malaysia. Nice. I think one of don't take this the wrong way, Malaysia, but one of the worst meals I've ever had was in Malaysia. And that was just because of that was me though. Like, it was I went into a a market, this local market, and asked the vendor what the most popular food was. And so he gave me this this curry, and it was more of a soup. And then I and then I went to another guy and got a sugar cane juice.
And I sat down, and it turns out that the the most popular food is called laksa. And it's this it basically smells like fish sauce, and it tastes like fish sauce. And fish sauce, I don't mind if it's in another curry, if it's a dash for saltiness, but this was just a straight fermented fish soup. Oh. And I I couldn't do it. And then and then the sugarcane juice was exactly how it sounds. It just That's a weird combo. Oh, it just yeah. It was dumb. But there's so much good food in Malaysia
[00:17:57] Oshi:
Oh, yeah. As well. I believe it. And
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then the last thing that we'll do for the stats is check out the Jar.
[00:18:07] Oshi:
Oh, let's go.
[00:18:10] Permanerd:
Episode 10. And the jar for any new listeners is just a a way that we can be impeccable with our word and try to eliminate filler words and just be be a bit more smartly like Eric FJ. Episode 10. This is nuts. And I'd I I might have to run this one again. Oshi with 3,145 words, one filler it says. What? I don't believe that for a second. Which is point zero three and that's zero ums and one like.
[00:18:49] Oshi:
No. I definitely recall using at least three likes. Yeah. I'll have to check the
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file. We'll check the tape on that one. Yeah. We're gonna go to the tape. And then I more than doubled your words at 6,930. That was with 22 fillers, which is a point 32%. And that is three ums and 19 likes. 19. Woo. Yeah which is by Pretty far. That's like the most I've ever had.
[00:19:24] Oshi:
Wow. Maybe maybe it switched ours up. Maybe I had the 19. Maybe I marked the no. I I mean,
[00:19:31] Permanerd:
I use ChatGPT to write this script and create a Docker container, so there's no way that it could be wrong. There's no way. ChatGPT is never wrong. It's actually really, really good, especially, 5.5. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the one.
[00:19:47] Oshi:
Yeah. Never wrong.
[00:19:50] Permanerd:
And so what we're gonna do as soon as we get this set up as well, we've got so many things, is to we're gonna be putting in 21 sats per per word that is a filler word from the beginning of the show. So the the running total is Oshi owes 239, and I owe a 196. Okay. That's It's accumulative. Numbers. No. Well, that's that's total filler. So times that by 20, which is not something I'm gonna do right now. And that, my friends, are the stats and the boost and everything else. So thank you for everybody who's listening.
And now it's time for story time. Story time. What do we got? What do we got today? Well, I remember you talking about how you were a hero and that not all heroes wear capes and other things.
[00:20:52] Oshi:
Yeah true. Yeah. What was it? Yesterday. Yesterday evening. It was raining here quite a bit. There's a lot of tree debris down and I was out on a walk walking back home and I happened to look down on the sidewalk. It was kind of like a woodsy area. I was walking and I looked down and I wasn't sure what I was looking at for a second because I thought honestly it was a piece of dog poop or a leaf. And it turned out it was this little baby bird. I think it was a wren. And it might have gotten knocked out of the nest or something because it was like kind of windy and stuff. So I picked it up, brought it back home, put it in like a little blanket and let it rest for the night here at home and brought it back to where I found it and it just flew away. So, you know, it it might have been fine where it was yesterday, but I just felt like I I don't know. I needed to secure it for the night because who knows what would have gotten it.
Did my good part, good deed. So glad to see it fly away at least. Nice.
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Wren in trouble, call Oshi.
[00:21:55] Oshi:
Oh. That's this that's the episode title. When in trouble. Actually, I said Wren, but That's what I meant.
[00:22:07] Permanerd:
Nice. Yeah. That's, we've got a bird's nest right outside our front door. I've got a video camera on it or a security camera on it, but I haven't done anything with the video. But they're, I sent a picture on on Noster. They're they're pretty cute. They look like Fraggle Rock characters at this point.
[00:22:25] Oshi:
That's really funny. Yeah. I did the same thing before years ago with a what was it? Some sort of what is his name? It was some kind of woodpecker. Saved him too. Her too. I don't know if it's a boy or girl, but I love animals, man. I do too except when they're eating my garden. Yeah. You know, that's a pain. I'll talk about that a little bit later too. My
[00:22:47] Permanerd:
story involves shipping and the the fun fiat world of package shipping. Oh, let's hear it. I had sent a package to Fulu, and it ended up in a completely different city in a completely different state. Or that was the last place it was tracked by Canada Post. Because what happens is Canadian Post, I I don't know what they do. I think they might just take the packages right to the the border, like, just to the line and then just kick them all over. And then then the US post office has to pick them up and then they do their best, I guess, delivering them.
And and so it was it was weeks and weeks before or and he still hadn't received the package, and so I packaged up another one and shipped it out. And so then I got a message saying that that they both arrived on the same day.
[00:23:45] Oshi:
No way. Yep. That's crazy. That is pretty crazy.
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So then God. I had I had put in a ticket with Canada Post, and then they wanted his information. And I sent him was like, I'm not gonna just give you somebody's information. Give them his NPUB. Yeah. Exactly. There you go. Here's a way to get ahold of him. That would've been really funny. But then he told me that and then he told me that he that they had both arrived. So I figured Canada Post probably wouldn't do anything anyway, so just gonna eat eat all that. He said he was enjoying it all, so that's all that really matters. Well, yeah. At least now you know next time to,
[00:24:29] Oshi:
wait a longer time.
[00:24:32] Permanerd:
Yeah. I guess. But then I don't want him to be waiting either. Like, it's kinda. Yeah. I mean, I would rather eat a bunch of costs than than have somebody have a bad experience with a What other shipping options do you have? Or I've got zero, man. Like, if there's several that I could use except that most of what I'm shipping is food, and Mhmm. Nobody will ship food anymore. I can't use UPS. I can't use FedEx. I can't use anything. Canada Post is the only one that lets it go through. Really? That's crazy. You don't have DHL or anything? Yeah. But none of it will go. Like, the none it it was I think it was about the time where they started putting the tariffs on in a big way that all of these things stop sell or maybe it was before that. I don't know. But they stopped shipping food products across the border. That's really annoying.
It's pretty annoying because, I mean I like supporting Canada Post but I also like not having to pay the most expensive shipping out of anyone.
[00:25:38] Oshi:
Mhmm. Yeah for sure. I mean it's expensive for me too whenever I ship to Canada or Europe. It's it's it's crazy expensive for sure. It's like maybe $30 to ship to Canada from from where I am. Yes. And then
[00:25:55] Permanerd:
usually get dinged on the here as well. That's what all the ones I've gotten, like the shipping shipping has been paid and then there'll be some sort of import tax
[00:26:06] Oshi:
that Oh, by the way, you want your thing?
[00:26:09] Permanerd:
Pay up. Yeah. Exactly. Well, it's pretty funny. Last time it was maybe it was who was it? I can't remember. I got a shipment from somebody because I don't get many shipments. But there's some somebody in the guy's I think it's FedEx, but the guy's mobile payment device Mhmm. Was not working. And so I told him I'd pay online, and then I didn't. And then they started harassing me, so I did.
[00:26:39] Oshi:
Oh, man.
[00:26:40] Permanerd:
And then the only other thing I've got is shipping to Minnesota. Daniel from Minnesota, I really need to get in touch with you. I still have the package that I just need. Oh, from last week? Well, it's been it's been maybe three weeks now, and I just cannot get ahold of of Daniel. So if anybody knows Daniel in Minnesota, let him know that Permanent is looking for him. If if there's a Daniel in Minnesota Reach me. The land of 10,000 lakes, man. I'd I'd really like to get this pack it's all packaged up. I just need some some shipping clarifications.
[00:27:19] Oshi:
Did you did you make a post on Noster about it? I did. I sent him a couple emails from different email
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accounts. So if anybody knows Daniel. Come on, Daniel. It's a yeah. I'm I'm to get him the order, but I'm not gonna go through the the shipping nonsense that I went through before when I had the correct app. Yeah. That's a whole rigmarole.
[00:27:45] Oshi:
I wouldn't
[00:27:49] Permanerd:
Hi. Do you have anything else that happened in the last week that you care to I
[00:27:55] Oshi:
guess that leads into maybe a town square here. Our friend Pam, she actually sent me some of her homemade handmade deodorants. No. I don't smell. I don't stink. That's not what I know. Out there. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. But but it does smell really good, the stuff that she sent me. She sent me a lavender one and then she's got what is this one? It doesn't say the variant of it but the ingredients of the lavender one. What we got here? Extra organic extra virgin olive oil, arrowroot powder, baking soda, beeswax, and essential oils. This one smells great.
This other one here has got grass fed beef tallow, organic coconut oil, baking soda, arrowroot powder, and again essential oils. Both of these are really great. Little jars so basically you just kinda put your finger in it, give it a swipe, wipe it pits and it lasts actually a pretty long time. I was surprised. Pretty good stuff. Definitely gonna, you know, try it on every day. Give her some intel, some feedback about how to maybe make it better. It's always fun to do that. She also sent me some of her homegrown roasted walnuts which is really cool. So shout out to Pam. Thank you so much. Sounds like a bit of a walnut butter to me. We'll see. We'll see. We'll we'll test batch. It could be cool.
[00:29:22] Permanerd:
So the town square which we are now residing in presiding in? Residing. Pres We're in. We're in it now. Is where we just, like to shout out a Bitcoin business, ideally a Bitcoin Noster combo business.
[00:29:45] Oshi:
Mhmm. This one's called Sats Pit. And they are available
[00:29:50] Permanerd:
on takemysats.oh,.com? Under Noster value pack, and they have a large value bundle and the sats pit under there. And make sure you use the promo code YADA when checkout. I don't even know if you can. If not, shoot them a note on Nasto. Shoot them an email. Say that that we value them very much.
[00:30:18] Oshi:
Oh, I see the variant name for this other one here. Brazilian orange and cedarwood. Pretty pretty good, man. It smells great. I love cedarwood. Yeah. It's so good. Honestly, you could probably just use this as some sort of body scent clone thing lotion. You don't have to use it for your pits. But yeah. Really, really awesome stuff. Thank you, Pam.
[00:30:40] Permanerd:
Oh, and we got your email as well. Thank you. Atsayhi@youarethealgo.com. And I would I would take you up on your offer for sure. So let me know what or I'll I'll hit you up on Noster,
[00:30:55] Oshi:
and I look forward to it. Yeah. What is it? One of those bundle packs that
[00:30:59] Permanerd:
our friend Alice is doing? Yeah. The the email is from both of them. So I think they are I think they're collaborative in this Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what they're doing together is Noster value bag. Noster bundles. Mhmm. Which is which is awesome. I mean, it's such a such a good idea. Again, it's something that I'd like to do up here but it's the the shipping thing. Yeah. Still working on it. Well,
[00:31:22] Oshi:
maybe there's something because I do this with Bitcoin Beans is he sends me stuff and then whenever he gets an order, I ship it out for him. He pays me a little, you know, little cut for packing it. So yeah. Just throwing that out there. I don't know how that would work for for that but Yep. Anybody interested,
[00:31:40] Permanerd:
hit me up. Send a boost to the show. We'll discuss it. Alright. Leaving the town square, we're going to move out more towards the edge of this property that we're calling a podcast.
[00:32:00] Oshi:
Where are we going? We're gonna go to
[00:32:03] Permanerd:
the problem is the solution. Oh, more permaculture stuff? Well, this will be a bit that is where I first heard of this, and I think it is a a permaculture centric or maybe it started from permaculture. Just that that saying in general, the the problem is the solution. Mhmm. And that just means that for every problem, you can use that problem as a solution. Like, you have slugs in your garden, you don't have a slug problem. You have a you have a lack of ducks. Right? So then you get the ducks, and now you've got eggs or meat or both, and just things like that. And so the the reason I thought about I I don't know. I tried to think it most problems I tried to think in this this perspective.
And the reason I was thinking about it this week was that a couple days ago, I went and did a property walk, and I've got this little area that had a a a very small fig tree and then three apple trees, kind of the start of a food forest. And the apple trees well, and the fig tree just had actually, no. I had fixed the fig tree already, but the apple trees had bamboo poles, maybe three quarter inch bamboo poles, and and then a plastic mesh to keep the deer out. And that was working, but then I'm pretty sure it was a bear decided that it wanted to eat the apple trees.
And the I mean, the apples aren't even that big. Right? The apples are yeah. They're they're small. They're just starting out.
[00:33:38] Oshi:
And so crabapples?
[00:33:39] Permanerd:
Well, yeah. I mean, they're the size of a crabapple. They will get bigger, but it's just so early in the season that they're not they're not too big around here yet. Oh, I see. And it ate the it ate leaves, the apples that were on the tree, and then just left a a pretty big mess. And one of the trees, which is a Gravenstein, unfortunately, it snapped off the tree at the ground level. And so that was pretty disappointing, but the problem is a solution. And I've had a I like to just buy trees and then let them sit and try to find places for them and never have the time to plant them. And so I have a a fig tree that's been sitting in the garden in a pot for several weeks now. And I wasn't sure where I was gonna put it, And then that gravenstein being broken opened up that area, and so then I planted the fig and started a a guild around it with a comfrey and some strawberries and some some beans and chives.
And so it was just a a way to take that loss and and generate something
[00:34:54] Oshi:
new from that area. Yeah. You just gotta flow with it. That's my story. I like it. Send some pictures. I'm I'm curious to see more of like your garden and stuff.
[00:35:04] Permanerd:
Well, you should check Nostril. You should follow me on Nostril. I do. Sometimes I don't see some people's
[00:35:11] Oshi:
notes for some reason. I don't know if that has anything to do with the relays or what. But Yeah. I'll I'll send you some pictures on on key. Yeah. Yeah. Send them. I'm curious. What kind of bears do you guys have up there? Black bears. In this area, up island, there's
[00:35:30] Permanerd:
a growing population of grizzly. Oh, wow. Yeah.
[00:35:34] Oshi:
When I spent some time in New Jersey, I saw maybe I saw a few black bears. Actually there was this one time I was out in the woods just by myself actually and I looked up in the tree and there was this family. It was a mama and three of her little cubs just climbing down the tree. I was maybe I don't know, 40 feet away. It was my first time ever seeing a bear in the wild. It was pretty surreal. It was really cool though. Gotta be careful.
[00:36:00] Permanerd:
Yeah. There are tons of black bears. I've got some I've got some bear stories as well. We'll save that for another time. Bear
[00:36:08] Oshi:
stories. Yeah. Have that as a segment. Unbearable.
[00:36:13] Permanerd:
If we keep moving up keep moving out in this concentric circles from from there, we end up in permaculture corner.
[00:36:23] Oshi:
Oh, dive into another principle?
[00:36:25] Permanerd:
Yeah. Let's do it. Let's go. Last week, we did the first principle, which is observe and interact. And this week, I wanted to do the second principle because numbers are good, which is catch and store energy. And that's exactly how it sounds. It is capturing resources when they're abundant and then saving them to be able to use at a future time. And that includes capturing sunlight, water, fertility in the soil, seeds, firewood, and just anything else that you can that you can capture. So it's the idea would be harvesting rainwater, you know, preserving food, saving seeds, and generating renewable energy.
So creating reserves for a future time. And one of the things that is the most important while growing is having carbon in the ground. And that's one of the things that bothers me so much about about this climate change narrative and, oh, there's too much carbon. You know, it started off as carbon dioxide, and then they just cut it down to carbon. And you carbon is one of the most beneficial things within a soil. So it's saying that we need to cut back on carbon is just a mis nomer, and I think the only carbon they want to cut back on is you. You are the carbon. But You are the problem. Yeah.
With every 1% of increase in carbon matter in a one acre plot of land, your storage capacity I mean, depending on the soil, but your your storage capacity increases by about 25,000 gallons, which is roughly 475 rain barrels. So that's 1% of carbon. And so you can try to capture as much water and store as much water as you want, but you'll never be able to store it as efficiently or at the capacity of the soil. So it makes it crucial to increase the soil health in order to capture the water within the soil. And some of the ways to I mean, what you're looking to do is capture carbon, protect carbon, and then and then make sure that it's stored properly, and then you can also accelerate that. So the couple things with the capturing the carbon is keeping living roots year round in your soil, right, which includes cover crops, perennials, and trees and shrubs.
Because when unless it has roots, the soil doesn't survive. Mhmm. And then you can protect it with mulch, you know, not tilling. And then if you do cut plants down, instead of pulling out the roots, leaving the roots in the ground because now they're going to break down and and be beneficial to the the soil. And then and then applying compost, adding biochar, and then any type of other carbon amendments. And then if you really wanna accelerate the carbon, then you can work with managed grazing and increasing the plant diversity.
And so what your plants are taking that c o two, which is carbon dioxide, and turning it into sugars, which are being transferred to the roots, which are then being eaten by the microbes, and then the microbes are producing the carbon. Or when they when they die, you know, their all their their cell structure and whatnot is added to the soil. Mhmm. So cover crops, mulching, biochar, just get as much carbon into the ground as you can, and then that's going to cut back on you know, the one one of the benefits of a of a food forest or, you know, permaculture design is is taking the work out of out of gardening or growing plants.
And one of the biggest things that you have to worry about is watering. And so if you can create proper soil, then that's going to cut back or eliminate the need for external water. You know, have them go around with a water can or a hose or anything else.
[00:41:15] Oshi:
Mhmm. How important does mushroom fungal mycelial networks kind of come into play in all of this? Do you do you know anything about that kind of stuff? Yeah. I think we talked about this a couple episodes ago, but, yeah, that's
[00:41:31] Permanerd:
mycelium is is crucial for plant health and soil soil health. And that's when you you know that you're doing pretty well on the carbon front is, you know, mycelium grows on carbon. You know, if you Mhmm. Rotting wood Yep. The cardboard, stuff like that. And so if there's it it's kinda twofold or maybe I mean, it's actually many more than that. But with the the benefits of the the mushrooms and the mycelium is it it works in has a symbiotic relationship with the roots of plants and trees and Mhmm. Can and benefit them by providing minerals and whatever type of of nutrients that they need. And then the plants or the trees will produce an enzyme which feeds ends up feeding the mycelium.
And and it's also, you know, breaking down that carbon and producing a food source as well. So yeah. I mean I in my opinion mycelium is I mean they all work together but it's one of the most important layers in a forest if not the most important layer in the forest. Yeah.
[00:42:45] Oshi:
That's that's kinda where my mind goes. It's kind of the unsung hero that people don't really tend to think about too much. You mentioned something about preserving for a later time. It made me think about there's a part of the mushroom network, I can't remember the scientific name of it but it's the truffle. It kind of looks like a little rock of the mycelium and from what I understand about how this part of the mushroom works is it kind of preserves its energy, its growth production for spreading more mycelium growth and if the conditions aren't met for that it kind of like preserves itself for a later time. It's like, it kind of looks like a little stone.
It's really cool. I was only reading about this not too long ago but I thought it was just an interesting little thing about how things preserve themselves for a later time. So it's kind of important to touch on that for mushroom network growth. I find it really interesting.
[00:43:46] Permanerd:
Yeah. Cool. I don't know. I didn't know about that with with mushrooms. I mean, I guess it makes sense. You know, there's other seeds and things like that that require or, you know, it can stay dormant for Yep. Dozens of years, if not hundreds of years, and then sprout only after a forest fire or whatever the conditions are met that they require. Mhmm. There's also bacteria that do that where they will create a a shell type of I don't even know what it is, but a shell around them. And so you can say you've got I think it's botulism maybe. No. Not botulism. I I can't remember. But if you have a a some ground beef that has whatever type of bacteria this is, you can put it in the freezer.
And unless it gets to a certain ridiculous temperature, it can stay dormant until it heats back up again. And so, I mean, that's nature is amazing. It finds ways to persevere. Yeah. No. It's really cool. Sweet. So, yeah, that was hopefully, was interesting enough to to pique people's interest and maybe look into it a little bit further. If you have any questions, certainly reach out. How are you doing on the oshigood.us front?
[00:45:18] Oshi:
Things have been kinda slowly lately. I'm not sure why other than maybe because of just the Bitcoin market and people aren't feeling too I don't I really don't know what it is. It's been slow though to be honest but I've had some other custom orders come in from the website standpoint. Not many has come in but I've gotten DMs and stuff for like larger custom orders, which is fine. But it's been slow. It's been slow. I was I was talking to Bitcoin Beans about this the other day, but, you know, it is what it is hanging in. I haven't really added anything new to the website.
Other than the preorders for the t shirts that I was doing a couple weeks ago. Those should be delivered to people or should be close anyways. So check your emails, tracking all that jazz.
[00:46:15] Permanerd:
Post some pictures. Post some pictures of the t shirts too when you're wearing them. Yeah, yeah definitely.
[00:46:23] Oshi:
The design itself originated in some like late night doodle I was doing and I was just thinking this would be a cool t shirt. And so I just did it and sold a few which was really cool. So yeah, if you guys get them, take some pictures. I'd be curious to see. Use a hashtag Yada. Hashtag Yada.
[00:46:43] Permanerd:
Yeah. It's the trying to come up with the more diversity as well. That's the one of the problems that I have with or just one of the challenges, I guess, of of business is if, you know, sales aren't going well, then do you do you pivot? I mean, you have to eventually pivot if things aren't going really well or things are really not going well. Words are hard. And, you know, do you create a new product and and get interest back in that way? Or is it more marketing? You know, like there's there's so many different Yeah. Routes to take. Yeah. There is.
[00:47:25] Oshi:
But the way I think about this is that, you know, the what I make looking at, I don't know, maybe a few months ago or before this call it a bear market. It's not really a bear market but sales were fine, know. But now I don't really want to pivot. There's nothing really for me to pivot to other than to just keep doing what I'm doing. And you know, like I said, not a lot of orders have come through the website but I keep getting DMs from people requesting custom orders for things which is cool. I definitely appreciate that.
But no, don't really think about adding new products per se. I just kinda just keep consistent and keep my head down and just keep, you know, sharing stuff if I have something to share. I don't really stress on it too much. But it really is just trying to just stay consistent and it's not gonna be roses every month. It is what it is. I kind of expected this to come. Maybe that's why because of my own expectations. Right. But So maybe maybe I manifested it. So I should Well things are coming around. Things are coming around. Orders are starting to come through but the past, I don't week or two it was just kind of sleepy out there. But this is the other thing is that I'm Noster and Bitcoin only. I'm not on X, I'm not on Facebook, I'm not you know doing all that stuff.
You know I I chose the hard path but I think it's a cool and I don't know novel path to go so that was my own choosing from day one. So I I signed up for this so I better shut the f up and just be consistent with Yeah.
[00:49:16] Permanerd:
Yeah. Me too. I mean, it's the same with Noster and Bitcoin. And, I mean, I'm I'm I'm happy. I you know, there's Yeah. We could definitely both probably be making a lot more sales and then dealing with the fiat world and the nonsense that comes with Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and all that. But it's for me anyway, it's just not it's not worth the the brain cells that will just be annihilated. I mean, going to those Yeah. Abominable sites. Mhmm.
[00:49:51] Oshi:
Yeah. It's more of just like an ethical and moral thing. This is your main gig then by all means do branch out and make as much income as you can. But if it's like your kind of side thing as in you know how I'm doing it now, I really try to just promote Bitcoin and Nostril and try to be an example for for what I believe in. And it turns out it was a good decision. I'm getting a lot of feedback from people. People asking questions about my shop and website and stuff actually as of recent again, which is really cool. So it's it's seen as a beacon of inspiration for this kind of thing to show that it is a proof of concept and it is working and it does work.
I don't know that that means the world to me. I think it's so cool and I mentioned it before but I always think it's so funny if I were to share with someone what I do. It's like yeah I sell huddle butter on Noster for Bitcoin. It's like people aren't gonna understand one of those words. Maybe the word Yeah. Oh. Yeah so it's cool. Again it's a hard path but it's fun though too. And it's rewarding. I've made probably to 800 orders now just to be transparent. Like that's crazy. All Noster and Bitcoin only like that's freaking cool.
So thank you to everybody that's been along this journey from day one and it just means a lot. It's super cool. Yeah. That's amazing. And it's the It is. It's the community that that we are part of. Know? It's the
[00:51:37] Permanerd:
is it growing? Is it retracting? I mean, there's a lot of talk that Noster's dead blah blah blah.
[00:51:44] Oshi:
Yeah. Same with Bitcoin. Right? Yeah. Exactly. It's going to zero. Yeah. So it's like it's the same thing. I mean, they're both interconnected because Noster is on Bitcoin and Bitcoin is, I don't know has superior design than I don't know anything else in the monetary system. Things are gonna get hard. Things are gonna go down. Things are gonna go up but you know, volatility is life. You know? So you just gotta roll with it.
[00:52:11] Permanerd:
That's the Keep it on. That's the edge effect as well. Know, the Noster and and Bitcoin are both on the edge at this point. And that's where there's so much growth happening. Mhmm. You know, that's things are flourishing on the edge, and I don't think that I would want to be anywhere else at this point. And for me, anyway, it feels like it feels like I'm growing as a person through this. And if if that requires or if that is the benefit of being part of something that is more fringe and isn't, you know, doesn't consist of millions and millions of people, then great. Mhmm. You know, that that's the small community feel, that small community where I think at this point if I was in real trouble and I needed help, I think I could probably reach out and I would imagine that you would be the same and there would be people willing to help that we've never met before.
[00:53:13] Oshi:
Yeah. No I completely agree. I've made so many amazing connections just Don Noster and through Bitcoin space and things like that. And just to make a point on the whole marketing thing, you know you're not trying to market to everybody. You're trying to have 50 solid customers that support you for what you do. And if you can get those 50 customers to repeat customers to just be there, you're fine. You're gonna sustain. They're gonna come back. They're gonna keep buying stuff from you. They'll tell their friends so you're not trying to reach everybody. I keep trying to remind my friends and stuff and myself for that matter to not be so worried about trying to get a bigger reach but try to find those that are, I don't know, respectful for what you do and what you provided value wise or unique wise because when people dispense with their Sats they want to buy something of quality.
So it's just, it's honestly an honor to be given Sats for the things that we make and that it, I find it so cool. I find it so cool. Me too. And I'm not a a sales expert
[00:54:26] Permanerd:
Me either. And I'm not even that smart, but one of the things that I know is that the easiest sale that you're going to have and that the the best possible way to get a new customer is word-of-mouth. Mhmm. And when when you're in sales and somebody comes in and they say, you know, Daniel from Minnesota recommended you or, you know, gave his seal of approval on this, then, you know, that's that's the quickest and probably the most loyal customers that you can get. And so Yeah. That's where instead of, you know, waiting six months to see if a package arrives, you're gonna package up a new one and just send it and consequences be damned as far as, you know, what's going to happen with that lost package. And I mean, we're not talking millions of dollars or anything, but I think it's just the point of making sure that I I mean, it's hard for me to even call people that make orders customers because most of them, I would almost consider friends. And whether that's sad or just the state of my life at this point, But I definitely have a better connection with so many people that I've never met than a lot of the people that I know in real life. Same. Yeah. It's a great point.
[00:55:52] Oshi:
I correct myself on that. Not so much customers, they're more friends at this point. I think of literally 10 on the top of my mind that have just been repeat and have shared it with their family and their friends and it's so cool. It just never gets old. I'll never take this for granted because it is a lot of work doing this stuff and especially both of us working in food. I think food is one of the most, I don't know, it gives a great experience. Not everybody can experience a piece of art like a book or something. They can't eat a book but when you eat something and you just experience their, the creator's intent and something unique. So when you taste something it just hits home, it hits deeper.
[00:56:36] Permanerd:
So it's really cool working in food. It is. I mean, comes with its own challenges obviously such as Yeah. Shipping nonsense. But it yeah. I I mean, I I guess the the main point that I would try to make here is do it. If you've got something that you want to sell for Bitcoin, do it. It can be anything that you want. Right? Just put it out there. Mhmm. Take it to a local Bitcoin meetup and offer your wares. I mean, if if the one that I went to, the Valley meetup is like most of the others, which I'd imagine it is, the people are super friendly. Everyone is there for the same reasons when it comes down to it, and that is understanding that something is wrong with the economy, you know, with with the community, with just the world in general right now, and looking for solutions on how to, you know, make that one change for their life, which will make things a bit easier or bet better, make you know, just try to make the world make sense.
And they're even the ones that are there for the first time, I mean, like I was, but they're are getting their first Bitcoin, they wanna turn around and and buy something with it and just see that transaction. So grab whatever you've got, take it to a local meetup, or advertise it on Noster. Go to takemysats.com. And use the promo code Yada to get a free month, so you're you're not even out anything for there, and it's and it's posted up there. Mean, let us know. I'm I'm more than happy to expand whatever limited reach I have for people. Throw it out there. I mean, we'll mention it on here, know, just get get started.
[00:58:30] Oshi:
Yeah. Yeah. Send some stuff to both of us like myself, like Sats Pit here. This stuff is awesome. I always enjoy getting some samples from other merchants and stuff and I always shout them out. I always,
[00:58:45] Permanerd:
I just love supporting it. Love seeing more of this stuff. So you gotta if you got it, ship it. Yeah. Exactly. Send it up here. I love seeing the moose come down with the mail down my driveway. Sweet. So go to oshigood.us and use the promo code YADA and put a smile on Oshi's face.
[00:59:13] Oshi:
Send it. Definitely. I I don't think I have too much stuff in the shop right now but next week new batch of butter. We'll be making the maple syrup huddle butter that seemed to have gone pretty quick last time but this this one will be the crunchy variant so if you guys been waiting for that one. I know there's a couple people that wanted that so we'll be making that and then I think I'll be making some regular chocolates again. The the little truffles that I make. Oh man, those are so good. But yeah, use YADA at checkout, save some SATs.
And then we you can use the code over at your website. Right? Yes. I did set that up. Nice.
[00:59:51] Permanerd:
And that's that's sats, thenumber4snacks.com. I still haven't got the ice cream sandwiches up, but I did freeze dry some yogurt sickles and some organic fudge bars, frozen fudge bars. And they're pretty tasty. So I bet. Oh. That's just like a teaser. It'll never get up there, but, hey, you know, I've got it. Hit me up. Just just throw me a message if you want it. Like, I sent some to Dawn on Noster. She wanted some, so we did a little DM deal, and I sent her some. So if I I don't know when I'm gonna get a chance to to get this done. But if you do want anything or special orders or white labeled, just, shoot me a message. Either say hi at YouAreTheAlgo or info at Permanerd or DM on Noster or any other thing on Noster, and, let's make it happen. Let's get it.
[01:00:53] Oshi:
Good one. Cool. Alright.
[01:00:55] Permanerd:
Anything else? Nope. Until next time, just remember that you are the algorithm.
Welcome to Episode 11 and podcast milestones
How listeners support the show with boosts
Boosts, shoutouts, and messages from listeners
Episode analytics, global listeners, and the jar
Story time with a rescued bird and shipping woes
Town square feature on Sats Pit products
The problem is the solution in the garden
Permaculture corner on catching and storing energy
Building Nostr and Bitcoin businesses through slow seasons
Why creators should sell for Bitcoin and where to buy
